So if the electricity went off for good ?

[bigpaul]

i think we could manage for awhile, although our (H.A.)property is all electric we have got alternative heating, lighting & cooking. the one thing that worries me is human waste, just being the 2 of us we can compost it for awhile but its other people thats my worry, i can see huge plastic bags of human waste sprouting from the branches of trees like some people do with dog poo, or great heaps of it in lay by's. i think after a very short while we would Bug Out and opt for total isolation.

Yup thats about what we'd do, see how it went for a short while then maybe bug out somewhere cleaner away from folks...

thats right Mike, let them wallow in their own sh1t, i'm going for total isolation and total secrecy, away from all the dirty beggers(thats beggers with a U!)