The problem of refugees

[bigpaul]

(5 April 2012, 11:07)Tibbs735 Wrote: But when they supposedly retreat after the warning shot, I doubt they will forget you exist. You will be on the map forever as someone who has something worth protecting.

no, they will go somewhere else that isnt defended and is easier,safer to rob!

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(5 April 2012, 11:11)mikebratcher69 Wrote: One thing I'll say is look at this, I've posted similar before.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population
Number 22 on the list..U.K. 62,300,000 July 1, 2010.
More than likely 63 million and more by now with the influx of rapists and child trafficers, sorry I mean foreign workers.
10 million people in the UK are over 65 years old so Minus a threat of 10 million people equals 52,300,000.
Under 16's 11.9 million, say 13 million now as these figures are out of date so thats 39,300,000.
Fancy discounting most women (30.2 million) round up to 32 million, as a threat?? that equals 7,300,000.
7,300,000. males of fighting age.
IF you discounted a big die off, and for luck took off a few million, say 5 million that'd still leave over 2 million plus people ( starving) roaming about looking for food for themselves and their families.
Yes lots would die through starvation and disease.
Yes lots would be killed by other people in the fights for supplies, rape, murder etc...
BUT some people would have you discount the ammount of people still alive looking activly for food and supplies.
Look at reports of europe after world war 2 for example, there were vigilante gangs roaming, rape gangs roaming, etc...
A war as big as world war 2 didnt kill off that many, they simply hid till it was all over.
Yes people arent as clever now a days, their quite thick in fact BUT they will still be looking for food and anything they can get because come shtf, they will think the worlds going back to normal, so they'll nick your gear and store it to sell at cash generator when the world gets back to normal. Regimented rows of crops andfarm animals of any sort will attract instant attention as a source of food.
There are people shall we say who think we'll go back to the good old days and we'll get left alone to farm and raise whatever crops we want.
Well you may if you have a brutal army at your disposal or at least a person capable of disposing of "problems"
The word post shtf will undoubtitly be very harse, violent and short for some.
I dont intend to be one of them, I prepare for extreme circumstances and defense of my family, if that means of disposing of thousands of "confrontations in a terminal manner then so be it. There will be no place in the new world for second thoughts or even caring emotion for others outside your group unless by prior arangement.

quite right Mike, i think the saying is something along the lines of:"defend with extreme provocation" or something like.