Time for AU and AG

[Paul]

Quaint civil and criminal law, respect, codes of conduct, civil niceties, please and thank you, etc, are meaningless to someone who is watching their kids starving.
Especially if their neighbour (i.e. you) has excess and yet expects payment whilst your kids go hungry. Think they are just going to sit next door quietly and listen to their kids crying?
Think again.

Is it even possible to negotiate with an armed gang who have been running amoke shooting and looting anything or anyone they come across?
Now they appear at your gate looking for whatever they can get and you offer to barter!!!!
Yeah, right, double tap to your head if you're lucky and maybe they'll keep your wife and daughter for a while to keep their newly acquired house clean.

Why does anyone think people will obey any laws except the law of survival i.e. take what you can when you can as tomorrow there may not be anything to have?

Why obey any laws anyway when there is no rule of law or local authorities capable or even willing to uphold them!

Everyone thinks long term on forums when the rule of 3 applies to most every survival situation i.e. 3 days without water or 3 weeks with no food is normally enough to kill off the very weak, elderly or young?

Sure eventually things will settle down.
Feudal settle down if TEOTWAWKI has occured.
The strong will take and make laws, their laws i.e. tribute is due, pay up or die.
The sheeple will pay and work for them in servitude much like now, today.

Bartering? Sod being nice, pass the ammo!