when does a preper become a raider

[bigpaul]

i tend to think that i would rather live without something than die trying to obtain it, i think there will come a time when everything will run out anyway, fuel/tinned food/medicines, so what we need to do is to work out a way of living without these things, if we cant manufacture them ourselves then we need to consider alternatives like horse power/growing our own food, hunting gathering/ herbal remedies that sort of thing. having lived among the "alternative" communities around Glastonbury i tend to think there is always an alternative to violence, violence only begets more violence!