(10 September 2012, 21:19)Hrusai Wrote: (10 September 2012, 21:14)Barneyboy Wrote: but with out the welfare the crime gos up 10 fold so wots the answer
there isnt a clear cut answer mate, lots of theoretical ideas and such...i dont think theres an easy way to sort the world out as it is, maybe after teotwawki we can rebuild in a perfect way (personally i have my own ideas of a perfect society) but i dont think we can really make any radical changes to our society as is 
but i think everything boils down to not just a system, but down to beliefs, cultural ideas, heritage and all these other things that come together to form the basis of each of us, after all we have our opinions and suchlike and certain ideas, most of which are instilled by society, just like our language is
lol getting into this will end up in some very lengthy discussions about everything i think so im going to stop now before i start talking about the history of everything xD
you should see the prisons in that place pal wot a shit hole but they still commit crime i dont no maybe a shoot in the head will be kinder
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