I like how this thread has kind of gone off the philosophy principle I was expecting it to go down.
It's urban based, so not really a worry about shelter. It's about getting out of a city, so long term food and water is not what I'm on about.
For the situation I'm questioning and the gear/kit I'm referring to, it's an urban environment, and you need to get out. That's it.
(10 December 2012, 16:18)bigpaul Wrote: at the end of the day, when TSHTF and all the stores and shops are empty its KNOWLEDGE that will help you survive.
True, and a very valid point. But that's not the situation I'm on about. I'm on about getting out of a city.
Same for walking the dogs in the flatlands by where you live. ALL useful gear that you're on about and I'm not knocking that, but for leaving a city, not very relevant.
(10 December 2012, 16:35)Highlander Wrote: Ok,.. if you have forgotten all your gear then most people will be stuffed,... so its down to what you are wearing,..
I always buy boots that have these extra long laces, the ones you can wrap around your ankles a million time,...if need be a snare can be made from the lace and still have enough left to tie your boots with.
Jackets should be the type with liners, the last thing you need to be is cold and wet,...if you do get wet, then remove the lining and dry it while still staying warm in the jacket..... the zip of the lining can also do as a saw if needed,..if treated with care.... water proof jackets with loose inside pockets can be removed and used to collect water
Often good to have your walking boots a size too big, so that you have to wear two pairs of socks,... you can do the same with a pair of socks as you did with the lining of your jacket,...or you can use one pair as gloves
Remember that many light layers of clothing is far better and far warmer than a couple of heavy layers
Again, this is a brilliant post and full of great info. But if you're in a city and want to leave, why would you be setting up a snare?
For philosophy of purpose, to leave a city, a good kit would be a handgun, money/creditcard, and a mobile phone. Anything more is just a luxury. You can buy stuff on the way out, or when on the outskirts of the city.
Look at it as being a challenge of what you think you need.
You're not crossing the arctic, you're not injured, you're not behind enemy lines, or anything like that. You're just leaving a city. You really don't need much at all.