Law post SHTF

[Tartar Horde]

Civilisation is merely living in cities, and most all of our modern laws are focused on this. It is clear though that many hunter gatherer societies also had a well defined set of laws that enabled them to contact other peoples with a degree of mutual understanding. I'm not for one moment trying to force laws etc on anyone. Big Paul your point of view is valid in as much as that is the way you see it, but are you saying your prefered method of life after an event would be one where absolutely no concept of law is adhered to? where people could kill, rob and rape with impunity, it's not about someone's God given right to tell you what to do, it's about humans trying to exist together with some sort of mechanism to do this.
Could we actually live without a system of redress?

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(2 February 2013, 18:44)Mortblanc Wrote: Killing to survive is called WAR. In establishing the right to kill to survive you are condoning the continuation of war as a legetimate occupation.

There are several constants and one might look to an obsolete guide to ethics for those constants, even if the religion is forign to you. Of the Ten Commandments there are 4 that serve as guides for any culture;

Do not murder people (this does not exclude the basic human right to self defense)
Do not mess with another persons' husband or wife
Do not steal
Do not lie, espicaly about another person

In studying history I have found those aspects as being universal. I have also found that if a culture does not accept those universals then they will eventually be imposed on the culture by some outside scource. That outside source (organized government) will normally exempt themselves from the rules.

Those points above I agree are universal to societies, but it is also apparant that those "laws" are not universally applied to peoples outside of your tribal group. for example, it would be wrong to steal from someone in your group, would it be wrong to steal from someone outside your group? as most tribal systems see outsiders as "outside" their laws and so the normal constraints of tribal life do not apply to anyone who is not of the tribe.
The purest form of law is one of consent, and does not allow any one person or persons to Lord it over us, as is the situation today. This is of course pertaining to group living. If on the other hand you are taking the Lone Wolf approach as perhaps Big Paul is? by what rules would you expect people to abide by when contacting/trading with you? and would you expect them to hold the "universal" laws as a given?