police do you trust them ???

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(15 May 2013, 15:10)bigpaul Wrote: indigenous native cultures always managed to live together without having heaps and heaps of laws, transgressors usually got banned from the tribe and spent the rest of their lives alone in the wilderness, normally everything was decided by a council of elders of the tribe. I don't think we need governments post shtf, I wouldn't want that personally, I don't want anything like we had before, I feel if we did we as a race hadn't learnt anything, but would just be making the same mistakes all over again. anyway if the S does hit the fan we will probably go so far back down the line that it will take centuries before we are back where we are now.

Back to where we are now technologically or politically?

Technology has always been the key to political power and you are discounting the impact our stored knowledge will have on any recovery.

Ownership of a technological advantage will bestow power instantly and the normal trend in crisis situations has always been to a military dictatorship.

I do not want that.

You are also romanticizing the days of clan warfare, plague, pestilence, witch hunting, torture and general filth and forgetting that the act of "banning" or exile was a death sentence, not just a few days alone in a camp in the lake district.

I do not want that either.

Part of it is a difference in culture also. There is an old joke here in the states about an airplane going down over the jungle and three people jumping out of the burning missile. Before they reach the ground they have held an election and on touching earth have a president, vice president and secretary/treasurer.

As for trusting the police: over here our police and law enforcement establishment represents one of the largest standing armies in world history. It is a constant battle between society and our law enforcement community trying to keep the abuses of power in check.

I never trust anyone that has been hired or appointed to a position of perceived power with only the person that hired him as oversight.