preparedness is not just about the crisis, it is about the days after as well.

[bigpaul]

(23 June 2013, 15:31)Straight Shooter Wrote: Although my plans are to survive what ever comes, my plans also Include a future for my group, most on here I assume are of the same mind , the only difference as I see things is your location , the other thing is do you go it alone (with your group ) or do you band together with others, the term lone wolf it used here a lot to describe the actions of some........okay me and BP the right way or the wrong way, who knows.....but if joining an extended group is the way for you , good luck with it .....the time frame for total isolation from OTHERS for me would be 12 to 18 months if that is possible , then time for a rethink if needed.

yep SS, thats what I think too, 12-18 months (minimum) TOTAL isolation from any other "group" or "community" until the dust settles, then very CAREFULLY scout and see WHO is around...if any..

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as I am expecting a large "die off" and my area is sparsely populated even in the good times, i'm not really expecting to see many people post shtf.

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given that the UK cannot feed ALL the population without supplies from abroad, I am expecting something in the region of a 75%+ fatality rate.