(13 September 2013, 21:44)Highlander Wrote: (13 September 2013, 21:37)Lanky Yankee Wrote: We use celox dressings, but I would have misgivings using it in a SHTF situation.
1. It hurts like hell when applied so we need to sedate the patient prior to use.
2. It's great at stopping bleeding, but if you use it how are you going to treat the wound after? Usually our patients have to goto theater to have the wound treated (cleaned, bleeding stopped, closure). I'm not sure how long it can stay on a wound before it will become a major issue like infection.
There is no doubt that these are a great bit of kit, but just think about what's going to happen after. I know this sounds hard but if you stop someones bleeding without the ability to treat the wound properly then they will most likely still die. Infection will be rampant and a horrible way to die. I guess if you have someone close by who can treat wounds then it's worth having in your firstaid kit.
Can you explain further about this,... why does it hurt, what causes that?, how does the Celox react when used,... does it go hard or what?,... whats in it that means it cant stay on the wound for long?
..... and is there a more friendly alternative?
So I did someasking around and finally got an answer about the pain during application. It mainly comes down to the pain due to us putting pressure on the wound, not the dressing itself. I've only used them once in anger and the patient was being sedated anyway. RS is correct on how it works, but again for me it all comes down to treatment after. If I'm in a SHTF situation I probably wouldn't use it, mainly because if resources are scarce and I stop this persons bleeding. I'll probablt be the one who has to try and fix things after. thats a lot of supplies to use on this. Not to mention all the meds they will need and food. Triage comes to mind then.
Obviously in everyday world I would have no problems slapping one on someone. If fact I just got 3 to put in my car 1st aid bag.