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27 September 2013, 03:55
(This post was last modified: 27 September 2013, 04:42 by Grumpy Grandpa.)
Thanks Charles - now we know where you live, we're all bugging out to your place. Hope you've got enough stored for all of us!! 
Lochaber is my ancestral home, grandpappy moved from there for work in the shipyards on the Clyde. If only I could make the move in reverse...
No, HL may not see many of those struggling to survive but where my family lives, on the North Ayrshire coast, has a reputation of being a 'better off' location, warranted - perhaps in the cases of many of the residents. It's a small resort town of about 15,000 to which traditionally, people retire and is also a place remembered by many in the cities of Glasgow and Paisley as the place they went on summer holidays 'doon the watter' and is only around 30 miles distant, as the crow flies. Many from those cities, who don't have what they need to survive, to feed their families, will come looking for it here. It's my greatest fear really - that and having a sodding great nuclear generating station just a few miles away!
I would have thought it not unreasonable for the criminal element, the gangs, to be among those who are most organised, taking what what they need by force of arms. Might it not be a mistake to believe that criminal = stupid? Might it not be the case that anyone (everyone!), including those criminals, view the rural grass as greener than the urban and make every effort to have some of it?
As for the low life, if the 'hungry hordes' can see that there are no prospects where they are, could this category of population not see that further out may well be better for them? What lengths might a father go to, to feed his children? If you imagine yourself in that father's shoes and consider what lengths you would go to, might it not then be denial to believe they will not come?
This last, I'm adding as an afterthought. "Government-dependent underclass." Would that include by chance, veterans relying on their pensions and disability allowances to get by?
(26 September 2013, 20:05)Highlander Wrote: This part of Argyll is called Lochaber
Lochaber is my ancestral home, grandpappy moved from there for work in the shipyards on the Clyde. If only I could make the move in reverse...
(26 September 2013, 21:13)BDG Wrote: Enough I would say so the likes of HL may not see many people at all.
No, HL may not see many of those struggling to survive but where my family lives, on the North Ayrshire coast, has a reputation of being a 'better off' location, warranted - perhaps in the cases of many of the residents. It's a small resort town of about 15,000 to which traditionally, people retire and is also a place remembered by many in the cities of Glasgow and Paisley as the place they went on summer holidays 'doon the watter' and is only around 30 miles distant, as the crow flies. Many from those cities, who don't have what they need to survive, to feed their families, will come looking for it here. It's my greatest fear really - that and having a sodding great nuclear generating station just a few miles away!
(26 September 2013, 21:41)CharlesHarris Wrote: ...roving criminal hordes are unlikely tol exit their familiar urban environment to invade your rural home... ...No gas means generally no travel for this group, with a few very rare exceptions.
I would have thought it not unreasonable for the criminal element, the gangs, to be among those who are most organised, taking what what they need by force of arms. Might it not be a mistake to believe that criminal = stupid? Might it not be the case that anyone (everyone!), including those criminals, view the rural grass as greener than the urban and make every effort to have some of it?
(26 September 2013, 21:41)CharlesHarris Wrote: It is also unlikely to see large needy hungry hordes wandering out from town... ...because they are uncomfortable outdoors and away from other people.
As for the low life, if the 'hungry hordes' can see that there are no prospects where they are, could this category of population not see that further out may well be better for them? What lengths might a father go to, to feed his children? If you imagine yourself in that father's shoes and consider what lengths you would go to, might it not then be denial to believe they will not come?
(26 September 2013, 21:41)CharlesHarris Wrote: The government-dependent underclass have rarely walked any distance for any reason and are unlikely to start now. They are predisposed to wait for “rescue†and will stay in town.
This last, I'm adding as an afterthought. "Government-dependent underclass." Would that include by chance, veterans relying on their pensions and disability allowances to get by?