the beginning of the end.

[NorthernRaider]

"RE: the beginning of the end.
you two are sounding a bit smug there..lol , these little agricultural micro fiefdoms are going to need manpower(when the fuel go's) and currency in this new world will be food and board , if people are starving they will try to take your stuff , having the deeds just wont cut it , you will have to work it and defend it for a long time into this very uncertain future , what about renewable power sources?there's been a lot of effort to bring renewable online , i know its a small percentage of the grid right now but it'll continue meaning tptb will still have limited resources and capabilities. "

Theres plenty of people already out in the boonies with the skills a self reliant community needs and most of em already know each other, most townies will be met by either indifference or hostility I reckon.
And it wont be fiefdoms and serfs it will be already established communities simply uniting to help each other just the the folks on the Somerset levels have been doing in the floods, AND just like the off grid eco village community of Findhorn is already doing very well, and the folks at CAT in Wales, and those in Nottingham etc etc. There is also plenty of already established Wind farms that can be configured to supply only local smart grids, and theres no shorts of PV arrays to be reclaimed , the UK has installed over 2 million in the last 10 years..

What the rural communities may need is very specialised skills like surgeons, but it wont need most townies nor people with guns as most rural communities already have long established groups such as Clay pigeon clubs, game keepers, sports shooting clubs etc, and of course in this area and around places like Taunton, Aldershot, Darmouth, Catterick etc theres also loads of retired and established military veterans . It wont be easy for anyone town or country of that I'm sure but established rural communities have the edge I believe.

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BTW two of the farms near here already produce their own biodiesel made from seed rape they grow for themselves, and the waste dried husks of the rape are used to power heaters for drying grain.

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Mo, my own preps have been in evelopment since I first got into survivalism in 79, but I still consider myself very poorly prepped and very much the novice, you really would not want to be in my shoes, try the guys up in Scotland who have done more in five years than I have in 30 years.