the beginning of the end.

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Yet again, it's the BP and NR show proving that you don't really want sensible answers or another persons perspective unless it agrees with your version of prepping and how everyone will react.
NEWS FLASH! Your way isn't the only way.
You two really can't wait for SHTF can you? All these bad things that, in your paranoid little world are supposed to be the end of civilisation as we know simply won't happen! We've seen economic collapse of a monumental scale before, and the world didn't go back to the dark ages, people didn't die in their millions, the lights didn't even go off! Read your history. In fact, go and find an elderly member of your community and ask them about the period 1928-1935. The financial world went into meltdown and yet here we are. If the European union collapsed tomorrow, we would be in a similar position to Iceland several years ago when their banking system went belly-up. I didn't hear that Icelanders were fighting each other for that final crust, or that the Icelandic population almost vanished overnight. I have no doubt their life got tougher because of their financial predicament, but to my recollection Icland is still right there with us in the 21st century.
You two are the ones who wouldn't last 5 minutes. Your 'Amish Lifestyle', BP is hellacious to manage alone and at your age and fitness level, you wouldn't even see out the first year. Amish communities have one of the most efficient support system in the world, that's the reason they are so successful. Why do you think they fear social shunning so much?
And from what you've said over the years, NR, your physical condition is such, that you will be directing SHTF from an armchair.LOL the original armchair prepper.
Why can't you give all your doom and gloom a rest.