the beginning of the end.

[NorthernRaider]

"Midnitemo
RE: the beginning of the end.
I love the idea of commune's and everybody helping each other , comunity spirit and all that but i've read Animal Farm and watched the unravelling of the Soviet union with all the corruption and human rights abuses that came to the fore when the iron curtain fell....man is an evil self serving creature , i've seen a pregnant woman punched and kicked to the ground for her MRE....be wary of mutual support when man is up against it. "
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Very wise words Mo, Socialism / commune(ism) is indeed great in theory but in reality rarely if ever successful as well can all tell from the USSR, North Korea, East Germany, Albania or the retards of the Labour parties left wing destructive policies. I think / feel that ORGANISED communes is a non start with strong willed free thinking preppers ( cept for TOF who appears to not like other peoples opinions). We inevitably see the evolution of a ruling elite or clique just as in Animal Farm.

I suggest a loose neighbourly mutual support system will probably be the most viable option of neighbours helping each other out in times of need. Still as history as proved time after time when faced with adversity some communities unite to help each other out ( like the folks on the Somerset levels) whilst others fragment and disintegrate ( like the Thames valley where they were stealing each others sand bags, looting homes, threatening EA workers etc)

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bigpaul

RE: the beginning of the end.
i was ACTUALLY hoping for some serious thoughts about homesteading and small scale farming, but all i seem to get is personal remarks as to how my personal plans wont work or "its not going to happen" this way or that way
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That's because unlike TOF you are not perfect and know what is best about everyone else.

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BeardyMan
RE: the beginning of the end.
Okay...

So, we've survived through the interesting bits, and now it's spring time and there's no one about...

So, lots of wild food around, lots of wildlife, and hardly any competition for resources. No probs with food then, nor shelter.

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First time I have agreed with you in years, but on the above details you are 100% right, My problems is I know what to salvage and collect but in many cases I dont to how to hand or use it. EG I can collect wheat grain easily enough but I have no idea on when or how to plant a crop for the following year, I can easily get a useful tool like a back hoe or bobcat but I dont know how to drive them.
Whilst my lists of gear to assemble and store are comprehensive my skills are still lacking in many areas and I'll probably end up resorting to hunter gathering within 2 or 3 years after TSHTF. So sharing skills with other survivors is going to be essential but it needs to be done without ending up as part of some bloody commune.

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TOF
RE: New Year's Resolutions?
For the first time in many years I have actually made a resolution...to not give a Rats behind what other people think, want, believe or say about me, my lifestyle, their lifestyle or how my lifestyle should be like their lifestyle.

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That resolution did not last very long did it?