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7 November 2014, 23:09
Dev, your bold text doesn't seem to link to an article for me, perhaps you could re-post it, ta.
NR, Poles are not the problem - they're hard working and skilled - in my experience it's Lithuanians and Croatians that are starting a turf war in the UK. When the work started to dry up in 2008 loads of Poles went home ( or at least they went somewhere else ), and I have noticed that on the Isle Of Man ( where they have different benefit laws ) only Poles come for work.
A compelling reason to allow migrant workers is our own ageing population, it's not uncommon for people to live for 20 years in retirement and they haven't paid nearly enough in their working years to pay for this, especially given the huge cost of care for elderly people suffering from dementia. The welfare state was dreamed up when life expectancy and population was much lower, it was thought that people could pay enough in national insurance to allow them to live out their retirement on state pension and receive NHS care. This is no longer true.
Naturally there's a down side, migrants age too and they will need care / pensions, so importing workers can only be a short term fix.
I don't think there is a solution, people of my age ( early 50's ) will not get a state pension and I don't think the NHS will survive. The UK economy is screwed up, same as most of the "West", there is no cure, so aim to be as self-sufficient as possible or prepare to suffer.
NR, Poles are not the problem - they're hard working and skilled - in my experience it's Lithuanians and Croatians that are starting a turf war in the UK. When the work started to dry up in 2008 loads of Poles went home ( or at least they went somewhere else ), and I have noticed that on the Isle Of Man ( where they have different benefit laws ) only Poles come for work.
A compelling reason to allow migrant workers is our own ageing population, it's not uncommon for people to live for 20 years in retirement and they haven't paid nearly enough in their working years to pay for this, especially given the huge cost of care for elderly people suffering from dementia. The welfare state was dreamed up when life expectancy and population was much lower, it was thought that people could pay enough in national insurance to allow them to live out their retirement on state pension and receive NHS care. This is no longer true.
Naturally there's a down side, migrants age too and they will need care / pensions, so importing workers can only be a short term fix.
I don't think there is a solution, people of my age ( early 50's ) will not get a state pension and I don't think the NHS will survive. The UK economy is screwed up, same as most of the "West", there is no cure, so aim to be as self-sufficient as possible or prepare to suffer.