(1 December 2014, 19:23)NorthernRaider Wrote: Overall I think if we did face a societal collapse and we had no oil or imported foods then YES a population reduction is most likely, but I am not certain DIE OFF is the correct way to describe it, a gradual down sizing or gradual contraction in the population would almost be inevitable as the country had to adapt its population and current economic climate to meet its remaining local resources. A gradual decline because of a reduced or quality of diet, and it would be compounded by a die off of those reliant on expensive exotic medications like Insulin if our economy collapses, plus a lack of modern pharmas and other stuff that costs money and is made from oil is likely to reduce life expectancy if not actually killing off people.
Personally I think this is much more realistic and will happen over a period of years, rather than months.
Life expectancy as you say will drop; the weak, ill and elderly will be the first to die and also I think because of our current ethnic diversity in the UK, we may even find that a lot people actually leave the UK, places around the Mediterranean would for example be seriously appealing for many, growing crops would be easier; fishing in the Med is easier and safer that around the UK coast; the climate is warmer etc..... so maybe we will actually see the start of mass migration away from the UK rather than the current mass immigration?
(1 December 2014, 19:31)NorthernRaider Wrote: Chuckle !!! I'm trying to imagine a " Prepper" commune that has heavy smokers and rabid anti smokers, Capitalists and Socialists, Townies and Yokels, Veggies and Vegans and Pure Omnivores, Bible / Quoran /Torah thumpers plus Pagans and Atheists, Those who want an elected " leader" those who don't, those wanting a committee those who want to be left alone, those who want to make fuel for machinery and those who want to get back to pre petrol days, Those who think everyone should pay into a central fund and those who do not, Tea totallers and boozers, Armed population or disarmed police controlled community.
Personally I think it would end up as a very unhappy place very quickly.
Barney I don't think there is any fear of me wanting a sex slave unless its Lucy Verasami the weather girl of my dreams, In 2014 I rub on Vic where I used to rub Brut, If I go to a nightclub they offer me a seat and it takes me all night to do what I used to do all night
I'm sure there is probably a Monty Python sketch hidden in there somewhere