Are the sheeple starting to wake up?

[Lightspeed]

Rephrasing your question,

"Are you really saying you'd kill your daughter to survive?"
to
" would you be prepared to kill to ensure that one of your children survived"

Gets a completely diffreent emotional response. And predictably the answer is yes I would be prapared to kill.

Equally if it made sense I'd sacrifice myself if I knew it would ensure my child survived.

[Skvez]

I see a moral difference between killing to defend what's mine and killing to take from someone else.
Sounds like you don't
I hope I'm never able to kill a child to take their food.

[00111001]

(5 September 2012, 13:48)Skvez Wrote: I see a moral difference between killing to defend what's mine and killing to take from someone else.
Sounds like you don't
I hope I'm never able to kill a child to take their food.

I hope I'd never have to. But if the choice is they die or my family dies then it's going to be them unfortunately.

I hope you have lots of food stashed away and a bountiful garden etc cause if you're not willing to take by force to survive, then you won't.

[bigpaul]

i dont WANT to kill someone else, but if its a case of them or me then its them(that will die) if that is what it takes to survive, then so be it.

[NorthernRaider]

(5 September 2012, 13:45)Lightspeed Wrote: Rephrasing your question,

"Are you really saying you'd kill your daughter to survive?"
to
" would you be prepared to kill to ensure that one of your children survived"

Gets a completely diffreent emotional response. And predictably the answer is yes I would be prapared to kill.

Equally if it made sense I'd sacrifice myself if I knew it would ensure my child survived.

Sod it, kill them all and let god sort it out.

[IB1]

Ok, so most of us would kill if necessary to keep our family alive.

Some have said they would kill another child to keep their own child alive

A question: If your family was with another family and both families are preppers in a group set up to help deal with tshtf (setting up groups is often talked about), would you kill the other prepping family if food was running out if it meant yours would survive ?

Just curious

[Lightspeed]

(5 September 2012, 17:09)IB1 Wrote: Ok, so most of us would kill if necessary to keep our family alive.

Some have said they would kill another child to keep their own child alive

A question: If your family was with another family and both families are preppers in a group set up to help deal with tshtf (setting up groups is often talked about), would you kill the other prepping family if food was running out if it meant yours would survive ?

Just curious

Hopefully not, but who can tell?

If things were becoming dire, i guess that each of the two prepper families would be aware that they were at risk from the other.

I hope that there would be a decision for each family to go off on its own to try to find a last ditch solution.

Lots of hopes and hopefullys here :-(

[IB1]

I know what you mean, and it is very unlikely to happen but it is worth bearing in mind when or if you set up a group.

My own thoughts are that preppers and survivalists could well be more dangerous to your family than the rest of the population due to the fact that many of us will have considered the more nasty/difficult options before any event, decided what they will do, and may be more likely to take the difficult choice if it meant saving their family

I'm staying well away from both the sheep and the preppers if tshtf

[The Local Ned]

Loving this thread...

Seriously ? - the reason we are in this mess is because some fucking middle class upbringing socialist twat at some point decided to create a group conscience.....and did their utmost to help all those little flea ridden countries with poor sanitation and darker skin colours than ours out.

Usually the ones that were ex, or soon to be ex , colonies.

They blamed us for fucking their countries up whilst busily digging the shit-pit their 'republics' were hurtling back into...it all went wrong and guess what ? they blame US again , and look for hand-outs , and look for mass immigration rights....just so they can start up their own little banana republics in our urban areas which were soon to become no-go areas for our own citizens.

But the corrupt and usually rich filth that were in power looked the other way , as long as they were getting their bumcracks filled with every tongue from katmandu to kuala lumpur.

The welfare state started as a new hope , a system that would ensure nobody ( meaning our OWN citizens , not the newly arrived ones ) went hungry , and had free access to good medical care.
Of course the newly arrived ex colonists also wanted a piece of that.....and some of them didn't mind doing fk all to earn it, not all , but enough to be noticed.

Our own white trash of course took notice and said - 'if those bastards can get away with doing nothing , getting free housing, and hetting hand-outs them it's good enough for me too.'

...Thus the parasite cycle begun....
as has been pointed out already - the nation is broke , we have little cash left , and we are still sending foreign aid handouts out in the millions.

WHY oh WHY oh WHY ?

Create a new national identity ? why ?.....BECAUSE WE NEED IT !!
Any who dont fit in ? send em back to their old banana republic.

Cant speak English ? or any of our own native tongues ? - see ya !

Haven't got 20 grand for immigration taxes ? - see ya !

Have committed a crime in this country ? - see ya !

Freedom of Speech ? - what have you done to earn it ? - so STFU , any religious ,racist or terrorism linked rants -see ya !

Want citizenship ? fine - start ploughing the fucking fields and growing food or other time consuming hard work for your first 5 years until you qualify for citizenship.

Wages ? No - food and lodging only until a full citizen.

Pensioners ? , Members of Armed forces ? - give them a better deal.
Police ? Firemen, Doctors ? Nurses ? - put them on an OAP pension or on the frontline in Afghan and see how the fuck THEY like that.

Unions ? disband the whole fuckin lot - more parasitic fkn leeches that are gravy trains for the socialista arse lickers.
Employment Laws ? yeah - by all means - any disputes ruled in a court by jury.

Handouts ? yeah - if you've earned them , if not, forced labour with any income capped to a minimum till its repaid.

Not fit ? get better quickly.
Unfit to work ? - sorry - you WILL get the bare minimum to survive.

Prisons ? - yeah - back to square one - a long hard, but fair - existence - they dont like it ? - optional euthanasia.

Politics ? - see Prisons.

Like many others , I've done a small bit to try and repay my country for the life I have had by serving in the forces , I dont think the world owes me one , and I dont think the country does either , with the small exception of being out of work straight out of school ( thatchers years ) I've always worked 40hrs or more a week. I pay my taxes , I own my own home , my mrs and I have both worked hard and saved hard , my pension won't be worth a fuck.......am I angry that the country has failed ME ?

Fuckin right I am.

Am I angry that the very things we have worked hard for and saved for , will be used to fund our retirement in a nursing home ?

Fuckin right I am.

Hand over some of my supplies,equipment,time,energies to those lazy bastards who couldn't see this happening because they were down the pub pissing their benefits away ? or on their 2nd foreign holiday paid for by benefits ?

No fucking chance.

You make an effort , then I will too....if you're totally caught unprepared , then , do one , sling yer hook , fill yer boots....fuck off.

I might not be 100% prepared , but me and mine will cope far better than the sponging mongs who have relied on their giros for everything for years.

[NorthernRaider]

There are two essentials we must achieve if our children are to have a secure sustainable future, first we must pass a law that says at least 50% of all goods sold in any given shop or business must be made in the UK from British materials. Second we need to reduce the population to a sustainable number , not the 19 million BP suggest which is what is needed for a basic agrarian society, but 55 million living in a modern environment. but we are at least 9 million over that safe figure already.