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What a great read MB ! ……….you got me wanting another bike pal! think I got the bug ! besides that old Montessa 150 cc trials has just about had its day …..my nephew has seen to that.
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You guys get a whole lot bigger selection of Chinese imports than we do over here. It is mostly due to your licensing laws requiring a period on a 125cc before getting a full license, so there is a huge market for a cheap bike that will last 2 years, from 17-19 after which it will be fit only for the trash heap. Then you buy a "real bike". So you have a big market for "disposable bikes" over there, hence the new wave of Asian imports, not just Chinese.
Many people do not realize that all of the "big four" Jap suppliers are having their wares built in Java, Tia land, Philippines, Indonesia and Viet Namn as well as the Chinese mainland.
And then there is India, New home of a lot of new marks.
It has always been the parts and support network that dooms cheap import bikes over here. I made sure I could get repair parts and regular maintenance parts before I bought this new toy.
One of the key features of my Royal Enfield is that I can buy parts from my dealer, and have a support network locally, but I can also order accessories and parts directly from India. I thing that is what the dealer does too, since I can get the parts in 4 days shipped or 5 days from the dealer if he does not have them in stock.
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(9 December 2019, 16:59)Mortblanc Wrote: You guys get a whole lot bigger selection of Chinese imports than we do over here. It is mostly due to your licensing laws requiring a period on a 125cc before getting a full license, so there is a huge market for a cheap bike that will last 2 years, from 17-19 after which it will be fit only for the trash heap. Then you buy a "real bike". So you have a big market for "disposable bikes" over there, hence the new wave of Asian imports, not just Chinese.
Many people do not realize that all of the "big four" Jap suppliers are having their wares built in Java, Tia land, Philippines, Indonesia and Viet Namn as well as the Chinese mainland.
And then there is India, New home of a lot of new marks.
It has always been the parts and support network that dooms cheap import bikes over here. I made sure I could get repair parts and regular maintenance parts before I bought this new toy.
One of the key features of my Royal Enfield is that I can buy parts from my dealer, and have a support network locally, but I can also order accessories and parts directly from India. I thing that is what the dealer does too, since I can get the parts in 4 days shipped or 5 days from the dealer if he does not have them in stock. I've ridden a lot of Royal Enfields in India, they really are bomb proof and very easy to fix, be aware the modern ones have electronic ignition unlike the earlier points type.
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The RE sold in the Indian market are a completely different product than what is sold as export. We do not even get the 350 Bullet here in the States, just the 500, Himalayan and 650 series and all of them are equipped with electronics so they will pass emissions checks, just like every other bike from here or there and sold anywhere these days.
From what I can see having the CDI ignition is not a problem on the RE. It is a very basic system and pretty much "bomb proof" unless the bike happens to be running when an EMP bomb hits 10 meters away.
In fact, being able to remap the CDI is a big bonus since RE has choked the new engines they are making down to pass EU standards. The Himalayan and 650 series are giving a 20% boost in horsepower with a simple replacement of the CDI with an aftermarket unit. An aftermarket exhaust should boost it even more.
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The CRF 230 has quite a following in the UK amongst Green Laners , it's been around a very long time and the motor/chassis has been used in an off road bike built by CCM to export to NGO's all over the world for outreach work , great motor , very tough , tolerant of most any grade of fuel , easy power characteristics(low powered) great economy , you have made a great choice there Mort , i did the same thing with a Lifan 110cc monkey bike back in 2004 bought crated and i had to build it then submit for an SVA test at our Dept of Transport so i could register it , sadly back then fit and finish was very lacking and i swore of Chinese bikes forever but i have noticed some lasting a bit longer before they turn to scrap just lately , some brands more so than others.
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Well we have had a run of very warm weather and I have gotten my grubby spanners to the little motorbike.
That was not before I did some major road time on the little beast to find out its dynamics. I have clocked up a couple of hundred miles on the KY back roads and on a couple of the front roads. The bike rides well and handles great, a credit to the model it is a copy of!
My first modification was to lower the beast front and rear. I have great difficulty with a seat height of 850mm when my inside leg is 750mm. I bought the bike I did due to its adjustable rear suspension. I lowered the front 50mm and the rear 100mm. I can now touch the ground flat footed while sitting on the seat.
As expected, it is choked down to the point of barely running for the emissions passage. Who in the world ever heard of a catalytic converter on a 230cc motor! And the carburetor is sealed to the point that the air fuel mixture screw is covered with a brass plate press fitted in place. The bowl is riveted in place so that adjustment or repair is impossible.
All of this is done to choke a 230cc motor that should make 21-25 BHP to the range of 15 BHP. You folks have 125cc motors from the same Chinese factories that pump out 14hp to hit your A1 limit. Mine should do 20hp easily, attain 70mph top speed and cruise at 55-60 without strain!
Now the motor is still new and running in, but the RPM is restricted to the point that speed is unacceptably low. There is still substantial torque on call but no top end power.
I gutted the exhaust system. The catalytic converter is a piece of rolled up corrugated metal that blocks off half the exhaust pipe to slow the flow of exhaust, bring the pipe to red heat, and burn any residual hydrocarbons before they exit the muffler.
That's gone!
So are most of the internals of the silencer. I am a firm believer that if the exhaust port starts at 25mm diameter it should have an exit path 25mm in diameter all the way through no matter how many twists and turns it takes to quiet the flow.
This bike had a 25mm exhaust port and the outlet at the end of the muffler, the real outlet not the huge hole showing for the world to see, was only 20mm diameter and had a fine mesh spark arrestor screen covering it.
That's gone!
We are a bit loud at this point, but not as loud as the neighbor's Harley, or the other neighbor's Suzuki 650. Or the old lady down the road with the rusted out Toyota Camray.
At any rate, the top speed increased from somewhere south of 50mph to just above 55mph with just the exhaust work. Now that 50mph speed is the velocity I was willing to risk on a new engine that sounded like it was going to explode when I shifted into 5th gear at 45mph! I have not gone for a real top speed run since I am still in break in period. I do not want to run the TT with this thing but a 230cc motor should be able to propel an individual of normal size at 60mph cruising speed with normal gearing.
Some new carburetor jets arrived in the post and the next move is surgery on the rivets holding the carb together. It will get a jet appropriate to the altitude rather than the test machinery. It will also get mid range flow adjusted properly with access to the air fuel adjustment screw. We are speaking of going from a .90mm jet to 1.15mm jet for a 25% increase in fuel air flow and the appropriate power increase.
One of the problems the Chinese bikes have had is they are tuned so lean that they run excessively hot and wear rapidly and blow up due to the heat. They are on the ragged edge of durability to meet the legal standards and then a 16 stone westerner jumps on and winds them out for a few hours and pushes them over the edge and screams about bad Chinese bikes.
In GB that situation might become a little better with the EU4-5 standards that can only be met with fuel injection and computer control. Our laws here are almost identical. One main difference being that testing is done only in major cities. Out here in the boonies they never heard of anything like your MOT. If it rolls you can drive it. There is a healthy aftermarket world of CDI units that have assorted mapping to meet any need.
There are also new sprockets in the post. I presently have a 15 tooth front gear and a 43 tooth rear. With the transmission in its present configuration that allows me to creep at "walking pace" in 1st gear with the clutch fully engaged and not stall the motor. That is great for passing the CBT, or even creeping through mud holes, but not so much for traveling on the A roads, or in my area the green lanes, where one can be smashed if not keeping up. I have a 17 tooth front gear coming from some place near Mongolia. We will see if that 7% change allows me to roll at 55-60 and remain below red line.
Now the cost of this work has been kept in line. I do not intend to fall into that trap where one buys a cheap bike and then spends more than the cost of the vehicle on modifications that would total the price of what you wanted to start with!
The tools I have used I already owned. The carb jets were $10 U.S. for a pack of 10 assorted sizes and one will go into the 230cc and another will go into my 50cc scooter, which is another tale all its own. The gear change will cost another $10 U.S.
Hey, if anyone is headed for the States next spring they can stop by and help me build a 49cc "adventure scooter". That new 750cc Honda X scooter has lit a fire under me! I already have knobbly tires on order.
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"In GB that situation might become a little better with the EU4-5 standards that can only be met with fuel injection and computer control. Our laws here are almost identical. One main difference being that testing is done only in major cities. Out here in the boonies they never heard of anything like your MOT. If it rolls you can drive it. There is a healthy aftermarket world of CDI units that have assorted mapping to meet any need". (Mortblanc)
That's the great thing about living in the sticks MB, common sense starts at the Tree line.
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Well that's it then ! I am to old to be doing with a bike No not even a second hand one and NO not even a African trans alp v twin …..I am to get this nonsense right out of my head and think about my grandchildren and not myself ! AND I don't care if Mork just bought a new one !...……..how many more times......its Mort ! ……."its time to put away the toys sweetheart"...….sorry men ….I have to let you down …..well for a few weeks at any rate.
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Well SS, I actually went back to riding bikes after making two realizations.
First was that my friends were all dying, some younger than me, and they were dying embarrassingly.
Heart attacks, strokes, diabetes, cancer...Is dying on a motorbike worse than that?
I have one friend that did himself in by falling in the shower!
Can you imagine finding out that old rough, tough and cantankerous outdoorsman, hunter, fisherman, thrill seeker Mortblanc died by falling in the shower?
I much prefer the thought that some day someone will look at someone else and say, "Did you known that old fool died riding a motorbike? He was seventy-something!"
Now there was a second realization that prompted me to make this foolish choice, that is the fact that both my wife and my mother are dead! Neither of them are around to tell me I can't have one and both had dome so at various times in the past.
That really did tick me off a bit since my wife had once owned a Harley!
At any rate bits and bobs are arriving in the post and I am waiting for a day of warmth and no rain, a condition that has been scarce for a week.
I did get the quick release rig for the battery installed yesterday, so the battery will go in and out in about 30 seconds and stay on the charger while inside.
I made the decision to peel the stick on decals from the plastics on the bike. They were a bit gaudy, as if the zombie green paint scheme were not already bad enough. Now it is simply smooth neon green plastic and I am contemplating a camo paint scheme to match my motorboat.
There is a good side though, if I leave it neon green it is highly visible, especially when I wear my neon yellow helmet! No one can say they failed to see me coming!
I also have a 12v cigarette lighter type plug to install so I can follow Google Earth to my death. We have some roads about this area that do not show up the computer mapping. I can plug the sat-nav in after I install that.
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