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#51
Yeah, practical shotgun is the aim. Hence the SGC now, and the FAC as soon as possible. Then I can get myself a section one Benelli M3 Smile
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#52
If that is the only reason for the FAC I wouldn't bother. The hassle is too much imo. Just get a couple of shotguns and the bits for converting them. For future expansion of course. Despite all the hype 3 shots is enough for most circumstances and 3 shotguns each with three shots is more valuable than one shotgun with 7 shots.

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#54
(23 May 2012, 08:02)00111001 Wrote: Yeah, practical shotgun is the aim. Hence the SGC now, and the FAC as soon as possible. Then I can get myself a section one Benelli M3 Smile

Do you know of a Practical Shotgun facility in the area?

I found one in Romsey, but it looks like membership is by recommendation from an existing member only, but it's hard to tell.
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#56
I would rather have 1 hi capacity shotgun than 3 section2, three shotters. 3 hicap shotguns is even better - if you want to start a collection. Getting an FAC to take up PSG is not particularily too much hassle. PSG itself is a learning curve and being adept with ones firearm is a skill highly valued. Knowing the abilities, strengths & weaknesses of the said weapons system and having the mental programming to use & sort issues with it under pressure is highly recommended.

getting a section 1 licence is not much more complicated than a section 2 one. You just need 2 referees instead of 1 and you need a seperate ammo safe if you stock slug shells(although not necessary to have or use slug) It is however a more likely route to avoid licence application woes - to aquire the Section 2 licence first and and then to go for the section licence maybe the following year. On the flip side of this - if you are attending a club and have joined after so many visits that they will stipulate, then applying straight for the section 1 licence should pose no problems. In this case a section 2 first would be a waste of money & time.
You can purchase & fit the gun cabinet after the initial application for a firearms licence, once you have passed the initial vetting the firearms officer will contact you to arrange a visit to your premises to inspect your gun safe & dwelling security. This way you can avoid buying a cabinet initially if you are worried about being passed by the vetting procedure. You will have time between the officer contacting you and the appointment date to sort this if you get on with it.

Being in a club is one surefire way to get your licence application accepted and it has other benefits, like other experienced shooters to learn from, possibly a training program, club insurance, access to knowledge of all equipment & where to the the best places to buy it. You can usually purchase firearms & shotguns & other related equipment from other club members a lot cheaper and you can club together to purchase ammo & consumables at reduced rates. The clubs have close links with firearms dealers and a working relationship with the police forces. Going the club route is respected by other disciplines & the authorities alike as being a responsible law abiding way to pursue legal use of firearms.

By having a licence, I have no worries about being involved with the legal firearms fraternity. It massively increases my exposure to kit, firearms, ammo, knowledge and everything else involved with the hobby. Therefore I am in a position to take in what I need as & when and store it in my prep archive.Big Grin
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#57
(24 May 2012, 01:06)Tonka Wrote:
(23 May 2012, 08:02)00111001 Wrote: Yeah, practical shotgun is the aim. Hence the SGC now, and the FAC as soon as possible. Then I can get myself a section one Benelli M3 Smile

Do you know of a Practical Shotgun facility in the area?

I found one in Romsey, but it looks like membership is by recommendation from an existing member only, but it's hard to tell.

Yup, the romsey one. I'm still waiting to hear back from them, but from what I can tell that's after your probationary membership time is up. I think it'll be the club secretary that'll complete that bit (or someone else who's been at the club a while)
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#58
(24 May 2012, 12:05)Timelord Wrote: PSG itself is a learning curve and being adept with ones firearm is a skill highly valued. Knowing the abilities, strengths & weaknesses of the said weapons system and having the mental programming to use & sort issues with it under pressure is highly recommended.

You have a habit of talking good sense Mr. Lord.

I'm a bit freaked out by how I could have gone this long without knowing about practical shotgun? I used to work in a gun shop, apprenticed a gunsmith... no one mentioned this to me after the hand gun ban. This was all back in the 90's... how long has PSG been common place in the UK? I've been preoccupied with air guns, 4x4s, guitars and motorbikes for the past couple of decades.



(24 May 2012, 15:04)00111001 Wrote: Yup, the romsey one. I'm still waiting to hear back from them, but from what I can tell that's after your probationary membership time is up. I think it'll be the club secretary that'll complete that bit (or someone else who's been at the club a while)

I may have to contact them myself. Most clubs let you go along before you get your own gun. I've fired everything from a .22 keyring revolver, through a .45 wildey auto mag, big game hunting rifles, and up to a 25 pounder howitzer. However I have limited experience with shotguns. I had a go at clay shooting once. I didn't do well. I didn't persevere as I didn't want to just shoot clays, I wanted to do something that sounds a lot like PSG, but I didn't know it existed!

Please, keep us updated with how you get on.
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#60
I just bought 2 Russian SKS for $225 Canadian each. The surplus 7-62x39 was $270 Canadian for 1440 rounds. We are limited tho to 5 round clips. They come with the original 10 rd clip, with a little piece of round bar riveted on internally. Which you could quickly cut off if the need arose. Each rifle came with a sling, a cleaning kit, a bayonet, 2 ammo pouches and 3 stripper clips for each rifle. They are flying out of the stores over here. The threat of the Marxist Obama bringing in gun controls in the US is causing problems here for ammo. So every body who likes shooting and hunting is loading up. I am pretty impressed with them, same factory that makes the AK47, good quality. I bought 2 30 round clips as well, they are pinned at 5 rds. But could be returned to original with a file in about 5 minutes. I feel for you guys. The socialists brought in gun control here as well, and the new Conservative government repealed quite a bit of it. After about 2B in wasted tax dollars. They have begun to clue in that criminals don't register and will never obey the laws anyway.
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