LEST WE FORGET today 7/7

[bigpaul]

(7 July 2012, 13:26)Melissa15 Wrote: Will be remembering the victims & survivors and thinking of their families.



Well, damn.

You said they're all tarred with the same brush (BP), but not every single person in the community knows a terrorist and doesn't speak up. I do get your point that there are people in the muslim community who know when somethings going on and they don't do anything to stop it, or do support it - and sure they are as bad as the terrorists, but to generalise a whole religious community as the same as those people?

Same thing to what NR said, 'there are 1000 known extremists' and too right there must be many more supporters and those who know and do nothing are just as bad but there are also a lot of muslims who don't support extremists or their views. Not all muslims want shariah law. Some muslims do choose to integrate.

you are wrong, muslims do NOT integrate..that is the problem, they hide behind their religion and their community and plot against the host nation(us). ever heard the term "Fifth Column"??

[Melissa15]

I know muslims who do integrate.

'they hide behind their religion and their community and plot against the host nation(us)' You really think all muslims do this?

Some do, but you say "they" as if every single muslim on earth 'plots agains the host nation'. C'mon BP tell me you don't mean every single one. That's all my point is - what you've said is relevant to muslims but not all muslims.

[bigpaul]

(7 July 2012, 14:34)Melissa15 Wrote: I know muslims who do integrate.

'they hide behind their religion and their community and plot against the host nation(us)' You really think all muslims do this?

Some do, but you say "they" as if every single muslim on earth 'plots agains the host nation'. C'mon BP tell me you don't mean every single one. That's all my point is - what you've said is relevant to muslims but not all muslims.

ever heard the saying" not every muslim is a terrorist but all terrorists are muslims"?? it is part of their religion to try to convert us all but if they cant convert us they would rather we are all dead. what i cant understand is..if they hate the British so much why do they come here and accept our welfare benefits??

[Hrusai]

(7 July 2012, 14:41)bigpaul Wrote: ever heard the saying" not every muslim is a terrorist but all terrorists are muslims"?? it is part of their religion to try to convert us all but if they cant convert us they would rather we are all dead. what i cant understand is..if they hate the British so much why do they come here and accept our welfare benefits??

bitches be greedy

[bigpaul]

(7 July 2012, 14:50)Hrusai Wrote:

(7 July 2012, 14:41)bigpaul Wrote: ever heard the saying" not every muslim is a terrorist but all terrorists are muslims"?? it is part of their religion to try to convert us all but if they cant convert us they would rather we are all dead. what i cant understand is..if they hate the British so much why do they come here and accept our welfare benefits??

bitches be greedy

well damn, terrorism is the same as treason and they used to have the death penalty for that.

[Hrusai]

(7 July 2012, 15:00)bigpaul Wrote:

(7 July 2012, 14:50)Hrusai Wrote:

(7 July 2012, 14:41)bigpaul Wrote: ever heard the saying" not every muslim is a terrorist but all terrorists are muslims"?? it is part of their religion to try to convert us all but if they cant convert us they would rather we are all dead. what i cant understand is..if they hate the British so much why do they come here and accept our welfare benefits??

bitches be greedy

well damn, terrorism is the same as treason and they used to have the death penalty for that.

i think they should have the death penalty back for various crimes....paedophilia, multiple murder, torture, rapists,terrorists, assorted other.

[NorthernRaider]

(7 July 2012, 13:26)Melissa15 Wrote: Will be remembering the victims & survivors and thinking of their families.



Well, damn.

You said they're all tarred with the same brush (BP), but not every single person in the community knows a terrorist and doesn't speak up. I do get your point that there are people in the muslim community who know when somethings going on and they don't do anything to stop it, or do support it - and sure they are as bad as the terrorists, but to generalise a whole religious community as the same as those people?

Same thing to what NR said, 'there are 1000 known extremists' and too right there must be many more supporters and those who know and do nothing are just as bad but there are also a lot of muslims who don't support extremists or their views. Not all muslims want shariah law. Some muslims do choose to integrate.

The problem is dear lady that the entire muslim faith is based up the conversion peaceful or otherwise of any nation that muslims settle in. its in their religion and part of their holy duty to convert ( or kill according to some) ALL none believers.

Islam was created siome 700 years after christianity, and since its inception it has never, rested, never paused, at trying to dominate every community anmd culture it comes across. It is forbidden under Islamic law to criticise or challenge their faith, the penalty being death.

Every country that has seen the numbers of muslims in its community go about about three percent finds itself with Islamic fundamentalists using force and terror against any none believers.
The Current targets under siege are Northern Nigeria where at least 50 churchs have been bombed or shot up, Yemen and Libya and now Eygpt are heading the extremist path. Only yesterday in Eygpt a young man was stabbed to death by religous police his crime was allowing his fiance to walk along side him.
Here in the UK there are a few million muslims and according to one report fewer than 0.7 % of them interact with people in depth outside their community. EG How many muslim girls in the UK have you EVER heard off marrying a hindu, sikh, jew or christian??

I agree not all muslims are terrorist or supporters of terorism, but ALL by rule of faith must strive constantly to create 100% pure muslim states governed by Sharia if they are deemed to be complete. Thus by default like the idiot conquistadors in south america hundreds of yearts ago if you dont convert you die.

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(7 July 2012, 14:41)bigpaul Wrote: ever heard the saying" not every muslim is a terrorist but all terrorists are muslims"?? it is part of their religion to try to convert us all but if they cant convert us they would rather we are all dead. what i cant understand is..if they hate the British so much why do they come here and accept our welfare benefits??

Its the Cuckoos nest tactic,instead of a huge great crusade or jihad to force us into becoming an islamic state they do it by guile, moving into the target nation and forcing change from the inside, the more you appease them the more they demand.

[NorthernRaider]

I must add that I do not consider the Islamic threat to be as dangerous as the socialist threat. The EU, Socialists like the Liebour party and their EU allies are a far greater threat to decent honest hard working tax payers just trying to raise a family.

I dare any of our community who have socialist principles to explain to me the following
(A) Why should I see 41% of my family income taken away on direct taxation, money which would be best used to get my children the best styart in life and to ensure that when I retyire I'm not a burdon on the state.

(B) Why am I paying through local and national taxation for Meals on Wheels, Ring And Ride , Warden Call services, libraries I never use, Swimming baths I dont visit, sports centers I dont care about, Gay and Lesbian, Single mother, Ethnic minority, Homeless teen, ex convict, advice centers, support workers etc?.

© Why should I be subsiding council rents for people who earm more than me

(D) Why should public sector workers not be entirely responsible for their own pension schemes instead of expecting the rest of society to subsidise their extravegance

(E) Why should public sector works get to retire before those workers of the private sector whose taxes pay their wages.

Parasitism and Scrounging is socialism and it not Islam is the greatest threat.,

[bowdrill]

I'r your not muslim you are. Nothing you are to be lied to hell your not even worth that they don't mix there religion is there way of life and that is what every one should be so get it in tO your heads to them you are nothing if u aint a musse your shit sick of people sticking up for them go and try take a bible in to one Of there states and see what happens And yes they are tared with the same brush because they are all the same so dOnt be fooled and this political. Correct ness what a loud of BULLSHIT when it suits them I no some of u will call me a racist but I quite frankly I dOnt give a f. K I have seen what has gone On in the inner cities and other places and have talked to people that are after our home grown terrorists and we don't no the half of what goes on Perhaps a few. More bOmbs will make u see the light it's coming one way or another u will see there true colours one day

[TOF]

I don't care which militant group/ religion these thugs belonged to. At the end of the day they are terrorists, they committed an evil deed on English soil to our citizens. That's enough for me to have nothing but contempt for them.
When their final reckoning comes, I can only hope their God whoever he may be, will send them downstairs to stoke a certain boiler.
I fervently hope, the loved ones of those killed or injured in this terrible tragedy have found some sort of peace.