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[Prepper1]

[Wildman]

unfortunatly thats the secret weapon of keeping the suburban and citie folk subdued and locked down. most poor people will defend past reason anything you tell them and most working class wont stop the ladder they have started to climb so ignorance tends to fester there. then theirs the rich and super rich, well nuff said.

[SealDriver]

Great words from a great man. He spoke a lot of sense and he also had a wicked moustache!

[Scythe13]

(30 November 2012, 22:41)SealDriver Wrote: Great words from a great man. He spoke a lot of sense and he also had a wicked moustache!

His concepts and philosophy of the super human also inspired Hitler and the whole Nazi party. So although he was intelligent, he kind of set some people off.

[Oggydoggy100]

F.Y.I. Friedrich Nietzsche was a close friend of Richar Wagner and had a major influance on Hitlers Mien Kampf and so on! You really think this Guy was great.............Just about sums up Sealdiver and Wildman........if ever there was a case for Eugenics!

[SealDriver]

(1 December 2012, 10:05)Oggydoggy100 Wrote: F.Y.I. Friedrich Nietzsche was a close friend of Richar Wagner and had a major influance on Hitlers Mien Kampf and so on! You really think this Guy was great.............Just about sums up Sealdiver and Wildman........if ever there was a case for Eugenics!

Lol that old cookie again......So anyone that has anything to do with Hitler is automatically very bad and everything that they say or do is to be ignored. I wish that I could make such sweeping and polarised statements, but then I know that in this world nothing is 'Good or Bad' and that thinking so is very dangerous. Lets ban all of Wagners music, lets wipe the Nazis from history altogether and pretend it never happened. How very British to put todays PC values on the past!

But then again we don't get mad when we see a VW Beetle, or we drive down a motorway, we don't scream and rant to shut down the Hugo Boss fashion house, all of which and other things we except into our lives are products of the Nazi regime.

I really hope that you are not suggesting that I am a Nazi OggyDoggy? Because that would be very wrong indeed and I would take a very strong dislike to anyone calling me such. Nazi's don't marry into Punjabi Sikh families or serve in the Military for a country that advocates free speech for it's citizens. nor do they have jobs in HM Prisons or speak three asian languages!

It's very easy to start on a complete stranger and accuse them of being a Nazi, It like calling someone a witch, it's also very ignorant and foolish...now until you know enough about me to make intelligent and well founded calms and opinions I suggest that you desist from making ugly and offensive remarks as to my self and others on this forum...unless of course you are willing to make these comments in a court of law?

[NorthernRaider]

Guys I remind everyone especially for the benefit of our newer members this forum rocks because SD likes the members to act as responsible adult and ensure they behave themselves. There is nothing wrong with holding opposing opinions about anything, there is everything wrong about verbally abusing someone because they have different opinions.

I for example despise everything involved with socialism, the left, Labour, trade unions, marxism, the welfare state and all the other parasitic bits involved with left wing politics. BUT on this forum Barneyboy and I often clash quite harshly because he is left of centre in his beliefs, I cannot stand some of the things he endorses but by god I will fight to my very last breath to ensure he is fre to say them.

So disagreeby all means, agree to disagree as you wish, but no verbally abusing or haranguing people who have opinions and philosphies different to your own. Besides everyone else is wrong and i am right

[SealDriver]

(1 December 2012, 11:37)NorthernRaider Wrote: Guys I remind everyone especially for the benefit of our newer members this forum rocks because SD likes the members to act as responsible adult and ensure they behave themselves. There is nothing wrong with holding opposing opinions about anything, there is everything wrong about verbally abusing someone because they have different opinions.

I for example despise everything involved with socialism, the left, Labour, trade unions, marxism, the welfare state and all the other parasitic bits involved with left wing politics. BUT on this forum Barneyboy and I often clash quite harshly because he is left of centre in his beliefs, I cannot stand some of the things he endorses but by god I will fight to my very last breath to ensure he is fre to say them.

So disagreeby all means, agree to disagree as you wish, but no verbally abusing or haranguing people who have opinions and philosphies different to your own. Besides everyone else is wrong and i am right

Sorry Northern Raider for my outburst, but Nazi Bombs and bullets killed many of my family in the Coventry Blitz, Dunkirk, Libya and Normandy so I find being called one very rude and offensive. I'll bugger off and can beans now that way I can't upset anyone...

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Busted!!

The very words of Nietzsche:-

Nietzsche heavily criticized his sister's husband, Bernhard Förster, and his sister, speaking harshly against the "anti-Semitic canaille.": "I've seen proof, black on white, that Herr Dr. Förster has not yet severed his connection with the anti-Semitic movement...Since then I've had difficulty coming up with any of the tenderness and protectiveness I've so long felt toward you. The separation between us is thereby decided in really the most absurd way. Have you grasped nothing of the reason why I am in the world?...Now it has gone so far that I have to defend myself hand and foot against people who confuse me with these anti-Semitic canaille; after my own sister, my former sister, and after Widemann more recently have given the impetus to this most dire of all confusions. After I read the name Zarathustra in the anti-Semitic Correspondence my forbearance came to an end. I am now in a position of emergency defense against your spouse's Party. These accursed anti-Semite deformities shall not sully my ideal!!".

Seems both Nietzsche and myself have the same problem, we were called racists by people that neither knew us or had the common courtesy to understand us. Nietzsche was cold in his grave when Hitler came to power, although when Hitler was perverting Nietzshe's lifes work I bet he was spinning in that grave.

[NorthernRaider]

I think we should just ignore the bits we dont like that other peoples post, its just easier and more neighbourly than insulting each other

No need to apologise to me mon ami , it goes straight over my head, the only time it annoys me is if it made SD consider introducing moderation to the only truly free and open prepper forum in the UK.

[Skean Dhude]

I believe no person is perfect. Myself, I am too modest for my own good, and thus every single one of us has some aspect of our lives that others will find fault in.

Many on here think the owrld is overpopulated. Does that make them bad. They propose a reduction in growth and eventually a reduction in total population. Until we get off this planet there is nowhere to grow too. That doesn't mean we are Hitler supporters.

We label people too easily and most labels tend to polarise our stances.

Hitler was bad but he had some good ideas. There are many people who think they are doing good but end up being bad yet we think they are good. Our belief structures only support certain truths.