primitive clothing

[Mortblanc]

For the reference files of anyone that desires a head to toe SHTF wardrobe this link if to the resources of Florida State University anthropology department. They have documented both artifacts and the traditional clothing of the Seminole Indians that resided in their state.

The Seminole were a conglomerate tribe made up of local natives, refugee Creek Indians after the relocation and escaped slaves from the southernmost plantations.

The U.S. government fought two wars with the Seminole and they are the only tribe that never signed a peace treaty surrendering their lands to the government.

They did sign a halt of aggression agreement back in the 1980s so they could get approval for casino gambling on their reservations.

Many still live a traditional life for part of the year, when they are not collecting tourist dollars for attendance of traditional events during the season.

These patterns and instructions are for construction of very simple clothing that is as serviceable in the field today as it was 200 years ago.


http://www.nativetech.org/seminole/index.php

[Tigs]

interesting thanks

[Tartar Horde]

I have heard that the Apache tribes were never defeated in the conventional sense, but I will defer to your greater knowledge of US history Mortblanc to correct me on this.

[Mortblanc]

Ahh, an historical diversion.

In the U.S. Native people are considered "dependent internal nations" so that the government can make treaties with their leaders and hold the entire group accountable. Out government is the only power that can negotiate with these "internal nations". No other government can do so and no individual can do so.

The Apache were a very loosely knit group of clans sharing a language group and it was the Europeans that labeled them by the region they inhabited, or in one case by the liquor they favored (Mescal). The largest group belonging to the Apache language segment is the Navaho.

Subduing them was a 400 year effort but it was accomplished. They were systematically forced onto reservations late in the 19th century. They all signed agreements to live under control of the government.

As in all such efforts, there were rebellions on the reservations when the terms of surrender were not met, with small groups leaving to raid and pillage. Just like in our current situation, these breakout groups were treated as bandits and not combatants. When captured they were placed in prison, not back on the reservation.

We still have the occasional "Indian uprising". There was a major hostile action at Wounded Knee back in the 1970s and I believe they had one in Canada, of all places, back in the 1990s.

The Seminole were an unusual group. As a conglomerate group they were refugees from other areas and many of them had been well educated and prosperous plantation owners before the Indian Removal Act of 1838. They took to the forest to fight a gorilla war against the government that was seizing their property. As things turned badly they simply drifted into the swamps and palmetto thickets and waited it out. It was absolutely too dangerous to conduct military operations in those areas so the government decided containment was good enough.

Soon afterward the eastern intellectual establishment went into a romantic period enshrining the "Noble Savage". The eastern intellectuals were not being butchered along the frontiers and they could afford that attitude. At any rate, since the remnants of the Seminole were on the waste areas the government would have placed them in anyway, the government decided to let things ride.

Rather than force them onto worthless reservation land the government simply declared the wasteland where they were a reservation! While the Seminole hunted and fished the swamps and forest the United States built out state of Florida around them.

Eventually, the Seminole decided that making money off the tourist was better than fighting wars and taped into the "noble savage" thing so they could charge more for their goods and keep steady cash flow.

[ObongoPox]

After dark,Seminole native-americans won't venture near the crash site of Flight 401 Lockheed L1011 Tristar believing it to be haunted.