Defending your home.

[Highlander]

(30 September 2013, 18:43)Scythe13 Wrote:

(30 September 2013, 17:43)Highlander Wrote: As far as the roof is concerned, those of us living in Scotland have an advantage, because our roofs are built differently to those in England..[ honestly ]

Our roofs are designed to take heavy snow, so the roof is made up just like a shed roof, i.e. its not just batterns and tiles its a solid wooden roof onto which the tiles are placed

I was talking to a friend about extending out whole house out another 5 meters. Turns out our roofs need to be able to bear 4 tonnes worth of snow. How much are you carrying up there HL?

Well we are lucky enough not to get a lot of snow here very often, we are protected by the Gulf Stream,.. but this is a Scottish wide building regs, so I dont know the details,.... it could well have come about because of areas like Avimore or the Caingorms, where they do really get lots of snow

[Scythe13]

Oh okay. That's cool HL.

You might be getting snow this year. Gulf stream isn't streaming at the moment.

[Mortblanc]

(1 October 2013, 15:39)Scythe13 Wrote: Oh okay. That's cool HL.

You might be getting snow this year. Gulf stream isn't streaming at the moment.

Who sold you that load of crap?

http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/gulfstreamspeed.html

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https://earth.esa.int/live/envisat_live_09.htm

[Skean Dhude]

Barriers that are effective against people getting in are just as effective at people getting out. Putting bars and covers on windows is fine as long as it can be removed quickly in the event of an emergency. That emergency could be you trying to escape from a fire started by someone knocking over a candle.

[Lightspeed]

(30 September 2013, 20:35)CharlesHarris Wrote: Wooden frame buildings and single cinder block walls offer little protection from 5.56-mm rounds.

The following common barriers in urban areas stop a 5.56-mm round fired at less than 50 meters:

One thickness of well-packed sandbags.

A 2-inch concrete wall (nonreinforced).

A 55-gallon drum filled with water or sand.

A small ammunition can filled with sand.

A cinder block filled with sand (block will probably shatter).

A plate glass windowpane at a 45-degree angle (glass fragments may be thrown behind the glass).

A brick veneer.

A car body (5.56-mm rounds penetrate but may not always exit).

Although most structural materials repel single 5.56-mm rounds, continued and concentrated firing can breach typical urban structures. The best method for breaching a masonry wall is by firing short bursts (three to five rounds) in a U-shaped pattern. The distance from the gunner to the wall should be minimized for best results—ranges as close as 25 meters are relatively safe from ricochet. Ballistic eye protection, protective vest, and helmet should be worn.

Ball ammunition and armor-piercing rounds produce almost the same results, but armor-piercing rounds are more likely to fly back at the shooter. The 5.56-mm round can be used to create either a loophole (about 7 inches in diameter) or a breach hole (large enough for a man to enter). When used against reinforced concrete, 5.56-mm rounds cannot cut the reinforcing bars.

Barriers that offer protection against 5.56-mm rounds are also effective against 7.62-mm rounds with some exceptions. The 7.62-mm round can penetrate a windowpane at a 45-degree obliquity, a hollow cinder block, or both sides of a car body. It can also easily penetrate wooden frame buildings. Continued, concentrated gun fire can breach most typical urban walls except for thick reinforced concrete structures or dense natural stone walls. Internal walls, partitions, plaster, floors, ceilings, common office furniture, home appliances, and bedding can be easily penetrated by both 7.62-mm rounds

Hi Charles,

Strange paradox. In the USA you are all armed to the teeth, but large numbers of people live in soft walled timber framed houses.

Here in UK only a very small percentage of population have access to firearms, but the vast majority of homes are solid brick walled, often double skinned.

[I-K-E]

(1 October 2013, 16:46)Skean Dhude Wrote: Barriers that are effective against people getting in are just as effective at people getting out. Putting bars and covers on windows is fine as long as it can be removed quickly in the event of an emergency. That emergency could be you trying to escape from a fire started by someone knocking over a candle.

yep all plans to fortify a property must have several options to get out quickly if need be

[Scythe13]

(1 October 2013, 16:19)Mortblanc Wrote:

(1 October 2013, 15:39)Scythe13 Wrote: Oh okay. That's cool HL.

You might be getting snow this year. Gulf stream isn't streaming at the moment.

Who sold you that load of crap?

http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/gulfstreamspeed.html

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https://earth.esa.int/live/envisat_live_09.htm

NOAA isn't working due to government shutdown. The Gulf stream is much weaker than last year. Not quite shut down yet, I admit. But not too far off.

[Skean Dhude]

Lets not go off topic.

[Sunna]

protect your roof.
if you live in a row of houses someone may get in a few doors down the street and then be able to get on to your roof, rip off some tiles add fire .
bingo

[Scythe13]

(2 October 2013, 00:09)Sunna Wrote: protect your roof.
if you live in a row of houses someone may get in a few doors down the street and then be able to get on to your roof, rip off some tiles add fire .
bingo

That'd just ruin your own house.