D-Day, when with the SHTF ?

[mikebratcher69]

Rj as you said the chavs will last quite a while, with there stockpiles of lager and crisps and such, I'd be looking at at least 3 to 6 months for people to completely run out of food then start dyeing off. 1-2 years for majority dye off. As people raid each other for food groups they will hang on for longer, that hampers us starting planting and such as crops have to be hidden to protect from raiding etc. The trouble for us starts with everything taking so long, because even normal sweet and innocent people can get dangerous when hungry.