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UK Strategic Fuel & Food Reserves
28 March 2012, 09:05,
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UK Strategic Fuel & Food Reserves
UK Strategic Fuel and Food Reserves
© Northern Raider

I was reading about the strikes in France a while back and the claim they were running out of fuel, so I did some digging, the facts below are very interesting, but worrying as I could not find any fact to support the fact the UK has its own fuel reserves except what the refineries hold!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11573181

European Union
In the European Union, according to Council Directive 68/414/EEC of 20 December 1968, all 27 members must have a strategic petroleum reserve within the territory of the E.U. equal to at least 90 days average daily internal consumption.[34]

France has an SPR with an approximate size of 65 million barrels.[39] As of 2000 jet fuel stocks were required for at least 55 days of consumption, with half of those stocks controlled by the Société Anonyme de Gestion des Stocks de Sécurité (SAGESS) and the other half controlled by producers.[40]

Germany created the Federal Oil Reserve in 1970, stored in the Etzel salt caverns near Wilhelmshaven in northern Germany, with an initial size of 70 million barrels (11,000,000 m3).[41] The current German Federal Oil Reserve and the Erdölbevorratungsverband (EBV) (the German stockholding company) mandates that refiners must keep 90 days of stock on hand, giving Germany an approximate reserve size of 250 million barrels as of 1997.[42] The German SPR is the largest in Europe.

The United Kingdom has created a strategic reserve, the size is unknown.
I just found this in a Parliamentary document:

The UK does not have strategic oil reserves. As a member of the European Union and of the International Energy Agency, the UK is required to hold emergency oil stocks equivalent to 67.5 days' national consumption for release in the event of disruption of international supplies. It meets these obligations by directing oil companies to hold stocks under powers derived from section 6 of the Energy Act 1976.

At the end of March 2008 the following stocks were available to the United Kingdom:

Million tonnes
i) Crude oil and refinery process oils: 7.1
ii) Petroleum products 6.7

These were equivalent to 78 days' national consumption.


These would most likely be held for use by the military and civil authorities.


Natural gas reserves

Storage
The UK currently has a total gas storage capacity of 3.3bcm, equivalent to 14 days’ supply at average winter gas demand rates. Gas is mainly stored underground since larger volumes (several bcm) can be stored in natural reservoirs or cavities than in above ground tanks.
The UK’s largest gas storage reservoir is the Rough field a partially depleted gas field in the southern North Sea, operated by Centrica.9 It provides over 80% of total UK gas storage capacity at 2.8bcm. Additional gas storage facilities are located in nine man-made underground salt cavities at Hornsea in Yorkshire.
http://www.parliament.uk/documents/post/postpn230.pdf

So if the gas supply was cut off of failed only 14 days later most of the nations heating and hot water systems would fail!!!!!.


The Strategic food reserve as was
http://www.subbrit.org.uk/rsg/features/food/

Basically we had lots of food set aside, now we don’t appear to have any.

(The following foods were held in the 1980s):
Flour - This was a special high protein, low moisture content flour which was turned over every 4-5 years.
Yeast - Packed in tins with an expected life of 10 years.
Sugar - Held in 56 lb sacks and turned over if it started to deteriorate.
Fat - Known as `Ministry Marge' with an expected shelf life of 20 years.
Biscuits - Sweet biscuits in large tins apparently baked in the 1960s.)
Depending on source it was estimated the UK food reserves were between 60 and 90 days’ worth.
(2012)
Using my own value system I reckon the UK has about 3 days’ worth of food available and that is held by the Supermarkets not the government, so possibly by day seven there will be lots of starving people DEMANDING food, so base your prep planning accordingly.





















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2 April 2012, 23:08,
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RE: UK Strategic Fuel & Food Reserves
just as i thought britian last again ?
to win the war, you must be willing to die
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3 April 2012, 01:43,
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RE: UK Strategic Fuel & Food Reserves
I can't remember where the info came from now, but I believe most fuel reserves were gradually diminished throughout the last 20 years and now there may be some on paper, but that will mostly be just what is basically in the system, as you said NR.
This 3 days worth of food thing, I Have heard more recent talk that this 3 day thing is also well out of date. It was put forward about 20 years ago when just in time systems were then up and running. I think now, that if it was a sudden major disaster or political announcement to the same effect, then you could be looking at just 1 day - if you were lucky enough. Right place, right time or wrong place, wrong time - take your pick. Also, if it was a power supply issue, then most of the big food vendors who stock the majority of food supplies - would not be able to sell their goods using the normal automated systems & there is no manual back up (like counting up prices and manually recording sales tallies). the store doors may not be operational, the security & fire systems may be inop & so in the inerests of Health & Safety, the stores would be closed! Until the looting begins that is... By day 2, a lot of the stock in fridges & freezers may be approaching germination. As we know, fuel would not be pumped if the power is down anyway. It could be a lot quicker than most think for the frenzy to begin, but I expect regional or town/rural variation to some extent.
Even without the power down scenario, food could possibly be picked clean from the shelves within 24 hours in some areas. Caution required. TL.
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3 April 2012, 06:53,
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RE: UK Strategic Fuel & Food Reserves
Where I live, our supplies come from Glasgow and if we had severe weather and lorries could not get through, the local Supermarkets (two) would be completely empty within twenty-four hours. Governments would criticise me for prepping, they would call it hording. Kenneth Eames.
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3 April 2012, 08:03,
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RE: UK Strategic Fuel & Food Reserves
I knew a bloke who was assisting in getting rid of the food reserve from "Buffer Depots" in the early 1990's, since then I thought the official "plan" was to requisition Supermarkets stocks as needed.

I could be wrong.


Ter
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3 April 2012, 09:17,
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RE: UK Strategic Fuel & Food Reserves
when we had the fuel strike in 2000(we were living in Glastonbury then), we noticed the big lorries were not getting to the big supermarkets, but the little corner stores were still getting their supplies because they used small vans-presumably more economical on fuel??
Some people that prefer to be alone arent anti-social they just have no time for drama, stupidity and false people.
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3 April 2012, 09:35,
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RE: UK Strategic Fuel & Food Reserves
corner stores get their stock from cash and carry's and if you own that business you still have to find money to pay your bills so strike is off
that's why little shops have stuff but when the cash and carry runs out then they will
p.s. if we buy from cash and carry's then it's better opsec because they expect you to buy in bulk
to win the war, you must be willing to die
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3 April 2012, 09:43,
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RE: UK Strategic Fuel & Food Reserves
trouble with cash and carry's is: 1. there arent any in this area, i think the nearest is Plymouth, best part of a 100mile round trip, &2. they are geared towards business-i think you need company details and a letter heading or something similar, so its not just a case of walking in, grab the stuff, pay for it and walk out again.
Some people that prefer to be alone arent anti-social they just have no time for drama, stupidity and false people.
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3 April 2012, 09:55,
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RE: UK Strategic Fuel & Food Reserves

When I went along with a relative to Bookers, I did a bit of mental arithmatic and quite honestly they were more expensive on a lot of stuff than supermarkets and the quality was pretty pants. Maybe that's just me being a cheapskate though.

Sailing away, not close to the wind.Heart
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3 April 2012, 09:57,
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RE: UK Strategic Fuel & Food Reserves
it's easy to start a business account for a cash and carry just be crative with the truth you are not doing anything wrong and if you buy the right stuff and amount would it not justify the cost of the 100mile trip
to win the war, you must be willing to die
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