Advantages of being a British prepper

[Tibbs735]

I would like to know what you think are the advantages of being a prepper in Britain specifically, compared to the rest of the world.

I ask this because I often find myself absorbing all the US based prepper media and feeling bad when I realize I'm stuck in the UK.

Aside from the obvious advantages of being prepared anywhere, what do you think are the pro's of being in the UK?. One point that sticks out for me is that there is usually a big distinction in the UK between "normal" people and survivalists, compared to the US where lots of half prepared people with more guns than groceries will cause problems later on.

[bigpaul]

(26 January 2013, 11:33)Tibbs735 Wrote: I would like to know what you think are the advantages of being a prepper in Britain specifically, compared to the rest of the world.

I ask this because I often find myself absorbing all the US based prepper media and feeling bad when I realize I'm stuck in the UK.

Aside from the obvious advantages of being prepared anywhere, what do you think are the pro's of being in the UK?. One point that sticks out for me is that there is usually a big distinction in the UK between "normal" people and survivalists, compared to the US where lots of half prepared people with more guns than groceries will cause problems later on.

yes, i think you've knocked the nail on the head Tibbs, US sites are all "Guns, Ammo and Band-Aids", where as here MOST sheeple( maybe a few exceptions) DONT have a gun and wouldnt look twice at one!

[NorthernRaider]

A we dont live in a nation where every village idiot can pop into Tesco and buy and M15 or AK 47, We dont have sodding great Grizzly bears, Pumas, Rattle snakes to contend with, most fresh water is not full of tropical diseases, we dont have huge numbers of conspiracy theorists just a few hundred quacks. We dont have 19 or the top 20 poisonous critters to contend with like OZ. Most British preppers plan because they see real world threats to their contuinuity not Black helicopters, Alien grays, NWO BS etc. We in the UK are more akin to Off-gridders instead of Rambos, Smallholder and allotment holders rather than right wing militias. We struggle with lack of space but are blessed with never being more than 72 miles to the live giving seas, The walls of 99% of british houses would easily stop a 5.56 mm round most yank houses could not stop a sneeze. My late friend John from Kansas used to say on one hand he could easily lose himself in the still largely empty wildernesses in the US, but on the other hand had a 40 mile trip to fill up his fuel tank, a 150 mile trip to the nearest hospital, the affordable supermarkets were a half days drive away. we at least have reasonable access to the services we need at the cost of hardly any useful wilderness ( plenty of useless wilderness though where only sheep and grouse can live). Our power distribution system is far more reliable than the US national grid. The average yanks disposable pay is not much better now than it was 35 years ago and they on average still only get about 10 to 14 days off work each year for holidays against our average 5.5 weeks which allows us to go and do skills obtaining courses to be better preppers. I would have no qualms about being backed up by any former British veteran in a survival situation especially a hostile one, I would be terrified of the very thought of having the average armed American behind me with their globabbly horrendous blue on blue record.

The yanks do have some advantages such as the easier access for law abidding gun owners, and of course Americans are blessed by god for their utter hatred and contempt for socialism, They do tend to be much better motivated as preppers compared to the UK, I met US preppers who would drive or fly 1800 to 2200 miles to attend RVs and prepper oriented shows, the average Brit prepper wont drive more than 50 miles so closer ties are not as strong in the UK. Many yanks when they become enlightened grasp the nettle and find a way regardless of personal situations to move out of town, we Brits tend to spend most of our efforts in finding reasons NOT to move out.

Those Brits I have seen who go to meets and gatherings appear to me to develop quite strong bonds with their feloow preppees where the US preppers tend to struggle to remain in close contact with other preppers as easily cos of the distances involved. Saying that my recent experiences on reaching out to European preppers gives me the impression the Brit preppers are much further developed and active compared with our continental cousins.

Britain is an island, which is good for prepper security the seas being our first line of defence, but we are over crowded and blighted with socialists who are destroying this once great country. Hopefully after the crash and decimation of the city sheeple and welfare dependant we preppers can survive and thrive.

[Prepper1]

Fully agree with N.R. and B.P. there.
Let us not forget the advantages we have in the u.k.
Whilst yes we do not have the firearms, as N.R. and B.P. says we most likely wont face a serious firearms threat ourselves should shtf.
Thats not to say there wont be guns out there and maybe the odd shot sent our way, just not the guns and unlimited supply of ammo our cousins will face. Maybe something similar to Serbia and Kosovo maybe? similar to Selco's experiences...
with less weapons...
Theres a lot of active preppers over here who dont/wont meet up for security reasons.
You never now who's watching...
And yes I know that if certain people want your details they find other ways of getting them, I personally dont want to give the fires that may burn in the future any fuel.
Call me paranoid if you like, I think there's a lot of British preppers that are that way, more so than our cousins, most of whom seem intent on broadcasting their every moment on face book and youtube.
And may I quote the following...

“No one likes to see a government folder with his name on it.”
― Stephen King, Firestarter

[NorthernRaider]

We also are blessed with a temperate climate, and most British sheeple are absolutely terrified of rural areas and wildernesses, the average urban family of dweebs think Centre Parcs is the great outdoors.

As for guns / firearms one point ALWAYS get overlooked about being armed with a gun, The guy with the M16 / AK 47 has no advantage at all unless he can SEE you, and the cammoflaged or concealed archer / crossbowmen are then on equal terms with the gunman. Nowt more scary to a soldier than recieving incoming fire if you cannot see or hear where the fire is coming from, ergo the group of armed scavengers moving into your area who keep finding one of their number being hit in total silence by an 18 inch crossbow bolt or a broadhead arrow. I'm not nor ever will advocate armed face to face conflict tween gunmen and archers, but the single bowman sniping and scooting is a fearful proposition.

[Highlander]

NR has just about covered all the differences between our two peoples, except maybe that we are simply a very different breed, People in the US I think would expect to get attacked and robbed, we here are probably untrusting, but are more tollerent of our fello brits, we tend to lean towards surviving in the old way, doing things as they were done a hundred years ago, people in the US have forgotton most of that and rely more on the `Gun, Beans and Bullets` than we do.

Guns to the average US person is the ultimate in survival, with the gun many feel they dont need anything else,.. personaly I dont think that they think more than 6 - 12 months ahead,..as long as their food supplies last.... where here we tend to look more long term and how we would survive after our food runs dry

[NorthernRaider]

Merkins start their prep planning with a guns and ammo first, we put it about last, we tend to start with the biological welfare needs first
UK Water-food-shelter-heat and light- medicine- tools-transport- fuel-logistics- reference - security
US Security - ammo,-transport- fuel etc.

We see security as PART of the whole, the Merkins tend to put personal security first ahead of everything, You will read of Americans who die of hypothermia or illness but died with their gun in their hands.

235 million merkins all armed to the teeth all who think they and they alone are the good guys and every other merkin is a bad guy, that makes for a very dangerous recipe.

[bigpaul]

i think NR is right about people who wont get off their backsides to attend RV's, on one site we were both on loads of people who said they were coming (to the WG) never arrived, in the end it was just NR and his lovely family and myself and OH, last year was a little better with 2 others arriving, since then met another prepper privately, once i had met all 4 i can safely say friendships have been established, but we really need to get more attending RV's, we need to get these ties and working relationships established NOW not leave it UNTIL TSHTF!

[NorthernRaider]

I reckon geographically and demographically the best place to be a prepper in 2013 is probably Ireland (but not if your English) A good sized land mass, temperate climate, good natual resources from peat bogs to fisheries, ideal for renewable energy, low population, plenty of wilderness areas, moderate gun laws and the Garda are still seen as part of the community rather than agents of the state. and the paddies are inherantly a self reliant mob as well.

[bigpaul]

no good going to Scotland, Ireland or Wales if your English! anyone see the report of the lad who was attacked on a night out in Cardiff? he was born in Wales but moved when a child and unfortunately he had a broad Brummie accent and was clobbered because of it.