fight or negotiation

[Sunna]

their seems lots on this site that say ,ill fight to protect my home kids food ect.
but when push comes to shove would you ??
its not as if you can pop to casualty anymore ,cuts broken bones could kill after s h t f .
i beleve most will negotiate their way out of things , you will have to , if your bugged in one good petrol bomb and your bugging out maybe losing the lot
i think if you fight everybody sooner or later your lose or get badly hurt and at what cost to you and yours ???

[Scythe13]

I get where you're coming from Sunna. I asked a similar question a little while ago.

One thing I am always curious about, some people will "never" resocialise, after a total collapse. Yet, those same people (most of them anyway) are holding barter items. If you're never going to interact with other people, who are you going to barter with? haha.

I think fights will be much shorter lived, and people will be sizing up their opponent a lot more, before anything happens. This is when you need to know more about psychology and group-think. But it's these interactions that will eventually lead to a level of stability, post SHTF.

[bigpaul]

if possible, if in doubt, WALK AWAY, fight is the last resort!

[Skean Dhude]

I think you will find people split into two camps.

Those that will passively accept whatever comes their way
Those that will do something.

Just by being here you fall into the second catagory.

That second catagory splits into those that are

Aggressive and willing to kill or maim another human being if they feel like it. (I hope none of us are in here.)
Aggressive and willing to kill or maim another human being if they are forced to. (Most of us are in here.)
Those that are not aggressive or willing to kill or maim. (Some of us are in here.)

The government is trying to clamp down on our aggressive instincts by penalising us for any retaliatory action, by limiting our ability to retaliate and by making us all namby pamby turn the other cheek wimps. Genetics though will win out but at a cost.

So the aggressive among us will be willing to take that step. Those that are prepared and have thought about it. There may be hesitation but they will pull the trigger to defend themselves and theirs.

If you do hesitate because of your upbringing or you try and avoid conflict when it is apparent it is inevitable you may die or be severely injured. If you don't you have the opportunity to become aggressive. Some of us won't make it past here. Don't let it be you.

Also be aware of others views on this. You don't want someone who won't kill being your sentry. By the time someone who is gets there the bad guy will be in.

[Mortblanc]

This is one of those points where the British and American thought processes go in different directions.

What possibly can be gained by negotiation over supplies you have gathered and you own except the loss of those supplies? My terms are, you go away and I will let you live.

Walk away and die if you wish.

Problem is that on several occasions I have seen the aggressor follow his victim.

I consider the person with the Molotov cocktail my first and primary target. The person that takes it from the dead hands of his friend is my second target.

And yes, I will kill to protect myself and my loved ones and the supplies needed to keep them alive. Over here we call it the Castle Doctrine and defense on ones person and family is approved by the government, so far.

[Skean Dhude]

I just noticed I didn't really answer the question.

For most of us. We would negotiate first. If that failed then the split I suggest comes into action.

[bigpaul]

The American way ever since the Wild West has been to shoot first and ask questions later!

[Sunna]

its the down side to the go it alone types , i think we would all be better off joining up with other survivors and making the best of it .

[bigpaul]

not necessarily....what if they were people you couldn't trust? can you sleep with one eye open? no..me neither!

[Sunna]

who do you trust now con / lab , you make the best of it now. do they do what you want , i know bye your other posts your not a happy bunny with our gov .
but you sleep safely in your bed after a nice meal .