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The Collapse of Society.
14 June 2013, 16:18,
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RE: The Collapse of Society.
Another day another appraisal, Bleak but very interesting but I disagree with much of it, we would not in any way or form resort to the stone age, at worst it would be the Victorian / Edwardian period.

Pumps can by driven by horses, water wheels, steam engines and slaves if neccessary
Banks did not rely on electronic comms before the late 1960s, we would just resort to slow speed banking of the type seen on many tv dramas.

And of course this relies on the BIG IF of the countries entire power system failing which is most unlikely.

Interesting post thanks for sharing.
No more communications !!!!, strange but why can we not resort to posting letters or telegraph systems? The few hydro electric stations in the UK generate enough power to run the entire cold war phone system and much more.

No more water and sewage yet Britains greatest water movement, sewage pumping, water filtration systems were water/ steam and coal powered so in time we could ressurect those systems, ineed if one looks alone at the number of certified seam boilers fiited to locomotives on preserved railways today their are more around now than in the 1900s.

Drinking water, over a third of the UKs water comes from clean mountain or spring supplies like Kielder so fresh safe drinking water should be available in many areas such as Mid to North Wales, Cumbria, Durham, Northumberland and much of Scotland and much of it is gravity fed to this day.

There are currently over i million PV panels in use in the UK at this time, they have a minimum working life of 25 years. Verical axis wind turbines have almost no working parts , just the egg wisk blade, pully to belt to pully to alternator via solid state rectifier, the hard ship will be finding enough deep cycle batteries I think.

Yup I agree the numbers of sheeple will fall greatly from disease and conflict.

You are completely wrong about coal, in Durham and Northumberland many new shallow open cast coal mines have opened in the last few years. In parts of the NE there are millions of toons of easily accessible coal just under the surface, its not been mined before now because of environmental and political pressures, primarily the coal is under the land of the rich estate owners.

Fracking is likely to produce trillions of units of gas in the near future as well if the green idiots stay out of it.

I think its going to be an uncomfortable five to ten year period before stability and supply meets demand after a full societal collapse.

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The Collapse of Society. - by John - 14 June 2013, 15:51
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by NorthernRaider - 14 June 2013, 16:18
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by Sunna - 14 June 2013, 16:23
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by Grumpy Grandpa - 14 June 2013, 16:42
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by bigpaul - 14 June 2013, 16:56
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by NorthernRaider - 14 June 2013, 17:43
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by bigpaul - 14 June 2013, 17:54
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by Highlander - 14 June 2013, 19:21
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by Timelord - 15 June 2013, 00:02
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by Steve - 15 June 2013, 00:15
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by Timelord - 15 June 2013, 00:52
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by RoadWarrior - 15 June 2013, 00:35
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by RoadWarrior - 15 June 2013, 01:02
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by Grumpy Grandpa - 15 June 2013, 01:49
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by RoadWarrior - 15 June 2013, 02:14
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by Prepper1 - 15 June 2013, 05:58
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by bigpaul - 15 June 2013, 08:40
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by River Song - 15 June 2013, 16:19
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by bigpaul - 15 June 2013, 16:56
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by MaryN - 15 June 2013, 19:51
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by bigpaul - 16 June 2013, 08:45
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by bigpaul - 15 June 2013, 18:03
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by MCavity - 18 June 2013, 13:10
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by bigpaul - 18 June 2013, 13:18
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by Mortblanc - 18 June 2013, 18:20
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by bigpaul - 18 June 2013, 18:25
RE: The Collapse of Society. - by RoadWarrior - 18 June 2013, 18:57

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