Surviving? Is it worth it.

[BeardyMan]

(22 August 2013, 16:32)River Song Wrote: The situation a la rapist or highwayman are straw dolls designed deliberately to be shot down. IMHO they don't have a leg to stand on.

Yes, they are there to provoke conversation. Same as the ones posted by others.

(22 August 2013, 16:32)River Song Wrote: Being responsible for other people is NOT 'nanny state-ism' but simply a recognition that as homo-sapiens, we have something in common and that is our humanity. Get rid of that idea and all is lost.

You watch the news? Read the papers? Not much "humanity" towards the fellow man at the moment is there?

(22 August 2013, 16:32)River Song Wrote: Forgive me if I labour the point but there are a number of voices here (usually the same culprits) who would prefer to cut themselves off totally from society. Terms get used such as 'sheeple' etc etc and I can laugh at that because I also see it -- I've been guilty of using terms like 'urban pond life' for which I'm not proud.

I think that bit's especially for you BP

(22 August 2013, 16:32)River Song Wrote: But once you get into the mind that you would NOT help another human being because you see them as somehow less than human, then you fall into the same category as the Nazi's who saw the Jews as less than human. You need to be very very careful of where the logic of your position puts you.

It's got NOTHING to do with anyone being less than human, or your views of other, it's down to SURVIVAL! Interfering in other's business WILL affect your SURVIVAL.

This is called SURVIVAL UK isn't it? Are we not all prepping to survive??

If doing whatever I can to protect me and mine (and that includes letting the population do whatever they want to each other) gets me the badge of being similar to a Nazi then I shall wear, and wear it proudly too.

(22 August 2013, 16:32)River Song Wrote: I'm sorry of this thread has been turned into an ethical rant but I'm a little tired of the self-righteous go-it-alone attitudes in the name of 'prepping'. There is another way and that's as resilient communities -- I'll fight for that point of view for a change.

No need to apologise. Good luck with your charitable 'resilient community' - I think you may need it.

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Let me switch this around for a second - to those that would stop and help - would you expect others to do the same for you?