Economy & Weather Change.

[Controversy]

There are currently two big threats to the UK in my opinion.
One is the freak weather changes and Two is the economy.

Weather change has been a huge topic for the past 10 years. Majority of people believe it is global warming but there are 2 other camps. One who believe it is a natural cycle and another who believe it is a cosmic change in the universe which is projecting these changes.

All I know is we are entering a mini Ice-Age in the Northern Hemisphere and it is worth getting prepared for it regardless what nay sayers say.

The other major threat I see is the economy. All across the Anglo-sphere (Australia-North America-Europe) our politicians have been borrowing money and paying our government debt with more borrowing and creating more debt. They have been using class-war to divide us. Making the middle class blame the working class and making the working class blame those who are on social security.

I cannot stress how uncivil we have become. Whether its the Daily Mail create hate for the poor or whether its the Guardian that enforces the status quo on society. Both political and social spectrum are being forced into conflict for the benefit of the Elite.

Give you a little past history about myself. I use to be ultra Nationalist but when I learned how we are abused I have turned Libertarian/Pro-Freedom. That is my bias.

I really do believe guys whatever political beliefs or social status you have does not matter.

The lines may be drawn very soon where there is only the Rich and the Poor. There will be those in Government who have totalitarian power and citizens who have no rights.

We have all this to contend with along with a terrible WINTER which is approaching.

Every year we get a 10% increase in our Gas & Electricity bills.

Top that up with rising food prices and Government lies about the current rate of inflation on the shop floor.

I don't know about you guys but I noticed a 40% increase in the price of meat this year alone.

To top that we aren't even allowed to save anything.

This is mainly due to the Bank of England monetary policy where interest rates are kept ultra low so our central bank can create monetary stimulus (quantitative easing of up to 375billion sterling).
They tell you that isn't money printing but it is.
They lie about inflation and we experience it when prices rocket up.

I know people who have developed gluten intolerant Coeliac disease because they cannot have a balanced diet. All they end up eating is porridge, bread, pasta, pizza and soup.

I could go for ages about this but I am really punished my mind and my eye sight by carrying on.

[Grumpy Grandpa]

(27 October 2013, 01:53)Controversy Wrote: All I know is we are entering a mini Ice-Age in the Northern Hemisphere...

You say you 'know' this is the case and it's not that I disbelieve you but on such a serious issue, I don't recall seeing chapter and verse published anywhere. I don't suppose you can you enlighten us (me anyway ) and point us (me!) in the general direction of some hard facts?

[Controversy]

Ah the weight of the world. Unfortunate I do and its made me ultra depressed.

There a cycle called the 333/666 year cycle. Its a natural event which our planet goes into as it moves further away from the Sun. Our orbit changes from a normal circle to a hyperbolic orbit. This doesn't cause the so called 2012 movie fear porn. Its a slow process. But Britain will return to the ultra cold damp wet weather patterns we had during the dark ages. Essentially a mini ice age for the northern hemisphere. I don't buy the whole global warming thing. That is just a global tax headed by Prince Charles.

To go into further you go into the masonic knowledge mainly.

[Straight Shooter]

we are going to get on just fine C.....fresh air at last !

[River Song]

Break out the tin foil hats I say and if it gets really cold then I'll have a glass of Harveys Bristol Cream darling

[Nix]

I had a post not long ago asking what were people's main fears here regarding to SHTF scenarios. Financial stability, or lack of, was pretty much top of the list. Not far behind was the weather so your views won't be challenged very much on here!

I most certainly buy into the planet's natural cycles. I suspect Man is acting as a catalyst for this particular period. Scientific evidence does point to the Gulf Stream rapidly desalinating which means that, for us here in the UK especially, our weather will certainly get much much colder. To the extent of a mini ice age? I suspect it will but the big question is when and how fast. Time will tell.

With regards to the world economy and our illustrious leaders that are handling it, I'm in total agreement. IMHO, these morons are printing money in desperation to save a system that was based on greed and, as such, would always have a limited shelf life. It benefits the few on the backs of the many. Fortunately for the few, the many do a really good impression of sheep. The system was always doomed to collapse at some stage. Again, the question is when.

[bigpaul]

don't disagree with any of the above, I don't subscribe to the global "warming" I've always referred to it as "Climate CHANGE" so I don't disagree with all that has been said about that either. as far as financial is concerned governments have ALWAYS lived on debt, they don't have any money of their own, its all raised on taxes and where there is a shortfall they borrow it, nothing strange there its called capitalism and like any financial strategy it is bound to fail, same as any household budget at some time it has to be paid back, so eventually it and the lifestyle based on debt will collapse with it, then we have TSHTF, Societal Collapse, WROL and so on.

[Rush2112]

i agree with the points on inflation and the fragile state of the economy are much worse than gets reported. Mostly this is due to government misinformation. This is not tin foil hat stuff at least here in the US.

Inflation numbers are misleading because they no longer include fuel and most food items. So they leave out things that most everyone has to purchase on a weekly basis. Attempting to hide the increases, producers have reduced the amount of product while charging the same price. For example a bag of charcoal used to weigh 18 pounds, now its 16 pounds at the same price. That is more than a 10% increase in price that most people would not notice. Officialy US inflation running about 2%, but if other items were included, it would be closer to 10%.

Unemployment under-reported by simply not counting people anymore. For example, if you collect benefits but havent found work when the benefits run out, then they consider you have given up and no longer count you as unemployed. If govt counted unemployed today the way they used to, the unemployment rate may well be over 15%, versus the 7% they report.

I hope the UK authorities are more honest. I dont trust the US govt's information. It's not that they are lying per se, it's more that the information gets twisted to reflect what they desire.

[Sunna]

i beleve thats why our goverment is bringing back national service ,so we can have young well armed troops on our street corners to keep order come the fall.

good or bad .....?

not sure

[Nix]

Don't know if it's any consolation, Rush2112 (great LP btw ), but the UK Government's been massaging unemployment figures et al for as long as I can remember. Matter of fact, I knew someone personally who worked in a Job Centre and they were told to change certain figures to be in line with Government targets at the time.

No surprises there then, aye?