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Heaven Help Us
13 May 2014, 17:49,
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RE: Heaven Help Us
If all one ever does is sit in a pew once or twice each year, or you were dragged to services unwillingly at some point, then the view you have of "organized religion" might be a bit jaded.

In my land atheists/pagans or whatever are scarce, but have taken control of our government. They do a very good job of making it sound like there is no religious influence in our land and any that presents itself is negative. That is far from truthful.

My Church is a community of like minded individuals that come together several times each week, and not always in the confines of stained glass and incense.

Among my friends from Church are a dozen men who meet every Thursday afternoon for lunch and planning sessions. Among those plannings are the camping trips, cookouts, hikes, hunting and fishing trips for that group and for the church as a whole. Some of the women do the same thing, planning girly things, and they are also welcome to meet with the men for Thursday lunch any time they desire.

Or group gets constant practice at quick reaction and communication due to the close nature of the group. As an example, when my wife passed away I made a single call from her bedside at 3am. Within 20 minutes there were five people there to support me. I was not left alone for 2 weeks. I have done the same for several of them since that time, and we all work with whatever skills we have in those situations.

The total group numbers around 200 men women and children. Among that number are professors, doctors, lawyers, several RN nurses, at least one surgical nurse, a dentist, several business owners and various other assorted craftsmen and skilled artisans. Many of us are veterans of more than one war.

We are not a group of losers hiding and whimpering prayers in the darkness. Most of the group are land owners and some of the members have large holdings and sizable farms.

One of the things that makes us a "like minded group" is that our present government is engaging in mild persecution against all faith based groups. We are aware that we might fall under serious persecution at any time, and we feel the need to be prepared for such things. For Americans that means several things; cash reserves, food stores and a few other odds and ends.

In other words, my Church is an already organized and functioning unit, capable of maintaining itself for an extended period of time in relative comfort and safety.

Now let's look at the OP in a different way.

Rather than asking if you would take a poor looser, deranged, God believing moron of a Christian into your group to burden you and cause all sorts of problems,

Why not ask why a well organized, successful, well equipped group of Christians would wish to take a non-believer into THEIR group.

After all, the non-believer is never going to fit in.
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Messages In This Thread
Heaven Help Us - by MaryN - 7 May 2014, 20:15
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Scythe13 - 7 May 2014, 20:25
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Mortblanc - 7 May 2014, 20:29
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Binnie - 8 May 2014, 06:49
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Tartar Horde - 8 May 2014, 11:45
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Skean Dhude - 8 May 2014, 12:47
RE: Heaven Help Us - by bigpaul - 8 May 2014, 13:56
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Straight Shooter - 8 May 2014, 21:37
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Tartar Horde - 9 May 2014, 20:21
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Talon - 9 May 2014, 21:01
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Bucket - 9 May 2014, 23:04
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Tartar Horde - 10 May 2014, 10:53
RE: Heaven Help Us - by bigpaul - 10 May 2014, 10:55
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Tibbs735 - 10 May 2014, 11:09
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Mortblanc - 10 May 2014, 17:58
RE: Heaven Help Us - by MaryN - 10 May 2014, 21:11
RE: Heaven Help Us - by CharlesHarris - 11 May 2014, 02:33
RE: Heaven Help Us - by bigpaul - 11 May 2014, 09:43
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Lightspeed - 11 May 2014, 17:33
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Mortblanc - 11 May 2014, 19:14
RE: Heaven Help Us - by MaryN - 11 May 2014, 19:54
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Mortblanc - 13 May 2014, 17:49
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Steve - 13 May 2014, 18:27
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Mortblanc - 13 May 2014, 21:57
RE: Heaven Help Us - by bigpaul - 14 May 2014, 17:16
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Straight Shooter - 14 May 2014, 21:46
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Grumpy Grandpa - 18 May 2014, 04:21
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Midnitemo - 18 May 2014, 06:56
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Steve - 18 May 2014, 11:59
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Mortblanc - 18 May 2014, 18:27
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Lightspeed - 18 May 2014, 19:05
RE: Heaven Help Us - by CharlesHarris - 18 May 2014, 20:13
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Tartar Horde - 18 May 2014, 21:44
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Scythe13 - 19 May 2014, 14:38
RE: Heaven Help Us - by bigpaul - 19 May 2014, 15:10
RE: Heaven Help Us - by MaryN - 19 May 2014, 21:28
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Scythe13 - 19 May 2014, 22:13
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Mortblanc - 20 May 2014, 16:58
RE: Heaven Help Us - by bigpaul - 20 May 2014, 17:15
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Barneyboy - 20 May 2014, 17:25
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Mortblanc - 20 May 2014, 19:20
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Devonian - 20 May 2014, 19:36
RE: Heaven Help Us - by MaryN - 20 May 2014, 20:43
RE: Heaven Help Us - by Mortblanc - 21 May 2014, 03:59

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