Question of Survival

[Billy02]

[CharlesHarris]

[Mortblanc]

Agree with CH.

Also please note that disguising your spam as helpful posts does not change the fact that it is spam.

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[Survivalisti]

[CharlesHarris]

Putting the heaviest items high in the pack puts compressive strain on the spine and is dangerously unsteady in mountainous terrain. Heavy items should be close to the center of the pack. Take a look at pack frames from the 1950′s, the meat shelf that sits up high well above the hips, they did this for a very good reason. The weight is then transferred straight down into the hips and rides substantially better. When weight falls below your hips, the pack will naturally pull back causing excessive pressure on the lower lumbar and shoulders.

To keep your pack’s weight in line with your center of gravity, ALWAYS pack rigid, dense items in the center of your pack near your back, especially with high-volume packs. Position lighter items near the top and outer layers of the pack. Empty space defeats the objective a tightly loaded, well-balanced pack. Take a soft, light item, like your woobie, and load that in the bottom of your pack. Place a hard, heavy item on top of that, and then stuff another soft item, like your bivvy, around that. Some people feel they must organize everything in stuff sacks, and then load the sacks, which turns soft objects into rigid ones and creates many unnecessary dead spaces. The items you have that are malleable the better. Use these to fill the spaces between the things that won’t play nice. Don’t be afraid to truly cram—your rack and Anasazis will be just fine, and your pack will ride better for it. If you items that just won’t fit, you need a bigger pack—or just make your buddy carry the beer.

[Pete Grey]

We all have different needs and different thoughts on how to manage them, in the UK hyperthermia is also our greatest danger due to our cold wet climate.

My BOB ideas putting it as simply as possible, without going through my pac (although i need to), a 40 litre Lowe Alpine.

Spare warm clothing and always spare wooden socks, bottom of bag. Stove, small billy and food middle of bag. Top of bag, bivi bag (always), tarp or lightweight tent.

Everything in main compartment is in a h/d plastic bag, not only to keep things dry, but if i need to cross a stream the pac would float.

Left side pocket FAK, knife, water sterilising tablets, fire making kit, paracord, medication (from scouting days, Left=Life). All in poly bags.

Right side pocket water bottle and trail snacks.

Flap pocket navigation, maps and compass, torch and spare batteries, old space blanket.

That’s all i can think of offhand.

Pac is not to heavy, stable and i can move at a reasonable pace, it should cover my needs in an emergency.

[Pete Grey]

We all have different needs and different thoughts on how to manage them, in the UK hyperthermia is also our greatest danger due to our cold wet climate.

My BOB ideas putting it as simply as possible, without going through my pac (although i need to), a 40 litre Lowe Alpine.

Spare warm clothing and always spare wooden socks, bottom of bag. Stove, small billy and food middle of bag. Top of bag, bivi bag (always), tarp or lightweight tent.

Everything in main compartment is in a h/d plastic bag, not only to keep things dry, but if i need to cross a stream the pac would float.

Left side pocket FAK, knife, water sterilising tablets, fire making kit, paracord, medication (from scouting days, Left=Life). All in poly bags.

Right side pocket water bottle and trail snacks.

Flap pocket navigation, maps and compass, torch and spare batteries, old space blanket.

That’s all i can think of offhand.

Pac is not to heavy, stable and i can move at a reasonable pace, it should cover my needs in an emergency.

The WOODEN socks are a bugger to put on, WOOLLEN socks are much better.

[Mortblanc]

I don't know about that!

I have a pair of wooden Sabots that are amazingly comfortable.

Even more comfortable with some woolen socks though so I suppose both of you are right.

[Pete Grey]

My BOB....Did not say but stove is an Esbit with extra fuel blocks, also i carry watch cap, gloves, a set of waterproofs, and i carry a whistle.

I’ve just recently sorted out my EDC/GHB and now i need to sort out the bob, it’s been some time since i last checked it

If things go TU and we are on foot i will carry the bob and my wife will carry the edc/ghb, with a stuff sac with extra gear (also carried in car) to upgrade it.

I also have a 25 year old Karrimor Jaguar 70 litre framed backpack but it’s a bit too heavy for me on a long trek.

[Mortblanc]