(26 February 2024, 13:28)Skean Dhude Wrote: When I was younger, much younger, I met with a guy who worked in medicine testing labs. Back then we were not able to produce a drug and then test it on humans, as we do now, and we had strict protocols on testing starting with computer modelling through to animal testing.
I asked him how they acquired the chimps for the tests. He told me that some are bred but, back then anyway, most were wild caught. Apparently they put bananas out and when the chimps grabbed them they couldn't pull them out so the 'hunter' put a chain around them and put them in a cage. He said how we laughed at how stupid these animals are but he pointed out that although we wouldn't be caught that way we were stupid in other ways. He said that we need to learn what was a banana and simply let it go.
I've lived by that philosophy ever since. You hit an issue, can you do anything about it and if you can't forget it and move on. Life isn't fair. If you can but that will lead to an escalation you may not win then what are the chances of you winning? If low it's a banana. Just walk away. It's called picking your fights and as you can see from what is going on our brilliant leaders just don't consider any consequences because they do not suffer them. So they go blindly in and we, the people, die. Hopefully they will pay for their crimes, although it doesn't seem like they ever do unless there is a real hot war. Just make sure that in your own lives you identify the bananas asap and let them go.
Re human testing, such tests did occur. They took place in learning disability hospitals and psychiatric hospitals. Some of the older nurses I worked with, could remember them during the 50's 60's and 70's. Whole wards of patients, were taken off what drugs they were on and given the drug or placebos. Extra staff were allocated to the ward for the inevitable disruption and strict observations charted. Apparently it wasn't a pleasant experience for staff or patients.
They were discontinued as unethical but most certainly did occur.
Another one of the dark chapters of the institutions.
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