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(21 January 2012, 02:28)grumpy old man Wrote: [ -> ]when you have kids they make you feel like a lion
nothing beats a cuddle of them or to hear their voice speak to you asking question no matter how stupied that question is to watch their face when they tell you about their day
to see them achive their goals and want's and to look at their face when sound a sleep in bed
a holiday or free time means nothing to the rewards day after day you get from your kids
you would proctect them with every last breath in your body and things you wouldn't do in your mind to another person go out the window if that person is willing to hurt you kid

That brought tears to my eyes mate. I've never really wanted kids, but I'm starting to think otherwise. That's really awesome.

I've decided, if you are looking after your children, then you are not a raider. I think that situation would call you a good parent first.
never wanted kids,never had kids, cant have kids, i am the original LONER the word was invented for me! most happy when i am on my own, doing my own thing, doing what i want to do, this is why i dont mind being the lone wolf WTSHTF. being alone dosent give me the "heabygebies" like it seems to do most people and after TSHTF i will keep as far away from people as i can and this is very easy to do in the area where i live, once you get away from the cities and the large towns, there is this great swathe of countryside in North Devon where there isnt many people, its too remote and isolated for your ordinary townie, but is just ideal for someone like me, lots of isolated, deserted property .
(10 February 2012, 12:25)bigpaul Wrote: [ -> ]lots of isolated, deserted property .

Post SHTF will be a property reclaim for BP.

If I knew of isolated abandoned property, I'd up and off and get myself somewhere else to live haha.
(10 February 2012, 12:41)Scythe13 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10 February 2012, 12:25)bigpaul Wrote: [ -> ]lots of isolated, deserted property .

Post SHTF will be a property reclaim for BP.

If I knew of isolated abandoned property, I'd up and off and get myself somewhere else to live haha.

post SHTF thats exactly what i will do,Scythe, but until then, you have to remember, ALL property is owned by someone, so gaining title is almost impossible believe me i've tried.
(10 February 2012, 12:57)bigpaul Wrote: [ -> ]
(10 February 2012, 12:41)Scythe13 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10 February 2012, 12:25)bigpaul Wrote: [ -> ]lots of isolated, deserted property .

Post SHTF will be a property reclaim for BP.

If I knew of isolated abandoned property, I'd up and off and get myself somewhere else to live haha.

post SHTF thats exactly what i will do,Scythe, but until then, you have to remember, ALL property is owned by someone, so gaining title is almost impossible believe me i've tried.

I won't be trying to get title. Just somewhere cheaper to live haha.
(10 February 2012, 13:35)Scythe13 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10 February 2012, 12:57)bigpaul Wrote: [ -> ]
(10 February 2012, 12:41)Scythe13 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10 February 2012, 12:25)bigpaul Wrote: [ -> ]lots of isolated, deserted property .

Post SHTF will be a property reclaim for BP.

If I knew of isolated abandoned property, I'd up and off and get myself somewhere else to live haha.

post SHTF thats exactly what i will do,Scythe, but until then, you have to remember, ALL property is owned by someone, so gaining title is almost impossible believe me i've tried.

I won't be trying to get title. Just somewhere cheaper to live haha.
after TSHF it wont just be cheaper, it'll be free!!Big Grin
(10 February 2012, 15:17)bigpaul Wrote: [ -> ]
(10 February 2012, 13:35)Scythe13 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10 February 2012, 12:57)bigpaul Wrote: [ -> ]
(10 February 2012, 12:41)Scythe13 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10 February 2012, 12:25)bigpaul Wrote: [ -> ]lots of isolated, deserted property .

Post SHTF will be a property reclaim for BP.

If I knew of isolated abandoned property, I'd up and off and get myself somewhere else to live haha.

post SHTF thats exactly what i will do,Scythe, but until then, you have to remember, ALL property is owned by someone, so gaining title is almost impossible believe me i've tried.

I won't be trying to get title. Just somewhere cheaper to live haha.
after TSHF it wont just be cheaper, it'll be free!!Big Grin

And the government says they don't know how to make new homes affordable for first time buyers! They're making the coming collapse just for us! WOO!!! Lucky us!
I won't be a raider. I'll be an occupier! haha
(10 February 2012, 15:23)Scythe13 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10 February 2012, 15:17)bigpaul Wrote: [ -> ]
(10 February 2012, 13:35)Scythe13 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10 February 2012, 12:57)bigpaul Wrote: [ -> ]
(10 February 2012, 12:41)Scythe13 Wrote: [ -> ]Post SHTF will be a property reclaim for BP.

If I knew of isolated abandoned property, I'd up and off and get myself somewhere else to live haha.

post SHTF thats exactly what i will do,Scythe, but until then, you have to remember, ALL property is owned by someone, so gaining title is almost impossible believe me i've tried.

I won't be trying to get title. Just somewhere cheaper to live haha.
after TSHF it wont just be cheaper, it'll be free!!Big Grin

And the government says they don't know how to make new homes affordable for first time buyers! They're making the coming collapse just for us! WOO!!! Lucky us!
I won't be a raider. I'll be an occupier! haha

yep, bring it on i sayTongue
Unfortunately due to a limited amount of space stockpiling is not an option I can realistically maintain or expand beyond a week or so.
Scavenging is pretty much my default action for the time being. Even so, raiding(murder to survive) shouldn't be a necessity for me but I wouldn't say that I wouldn't steal to survive.
i think there is a difference between raiding and scavenging, raiding is taking,sometimes by force, something that belongs to someone else, scavenging is acquiring and using something that has either been abandoned or has no obvious owner. i intend to be a scavenger/probably already am given my lifestyle, but i dont envisage being a raider/looter.Angel
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