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Gear weight
#1
Most of us have bob's packed, but have you carried them any distance? I learnt the hard way this weekend that overpacking hurts (thanks for the help scythe). If you cant carry your bag any distance, is it any use to you? Can you decrease weight, or do you need to improve your fittness? Just something to think about.
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#2
My BOB as was weight about 45 pounds which is something I could manage so long as I did not play Rambo, my full kit in the army was a touch over 70 pounds but that was years ago Smile. The 45 pound weight is sustainable in my case for my needs in moving at between 2 and 3 MPH tactically with lots of pauses and rest stops, which I think will be the most likely option for most non military types after TSHTF with wifey, kids possibly granny in tow. Move much faster than that are you simply cannot recce the area in front of you properly and you just end up tabbing like a rambler which will only see your premature demise after TSHTF.

However my GHB is a touch over 30 pounds with two full water bottles and my EDC bag is probably only 10 pounds.

Packing your gear right and how you carry the load can greatly influence how far and how painful it can get, I still piss myself laughing when I see silly buggers with the weight on their hips and sleeping bags bouncing off their arses.

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#3
danzord its an evolutionary thing you start of carrying far to much but it gets pared down overtime when you realise some bits of kit never get used and you see better lighter ways of doing things....it can take a goodly while to perfect as i'm still packing too much over 30 years into it lol Blush
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#4
This is an important question. There is a huge difference between having a weighted bag, and being able to carry that bag for time.

I know I can carry my bag with full gear for a day's hiking on VERY hilly ground, and still have energy to drop the bag and run a mile or 2 afterwards, but admittedly not very fast miles.

I'm still stripping down as much weight from my bag as I can, and I think I know a couple more items I could remove, but just need to do so and get back out on Dartmoor or somewhere, to test it out. There's no point getting gear, and improving it, and mofidying, and this and that, unless it gets tested and you're able to work with it.

TOF used to get tents and try them out in her front garden! She's crazy, but awesome. MCavity gets gear, learns to use is, then upgrades the item and uses it, e.g. his axe, cooking system, etc. SD tests out anything he can get his hands on.

The difference between having gear, being able to use it, and being able to move with it, are miles apart!

Good lesson well learned.
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#5
this is why I use a framed pack, I have a small 25litre pack on a frame for day trips and scouting post SHTF, my BOB is an Alice pack on a frame, the only time I use a non framed pack is for my sandwiches when I go to The Scythe Fair or the Game Fair or for small purchases at same. I find a framed pack spreads the weight.
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