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I have been at this for a long time. Everyone in the "family and friends" system is either on board or is never going to get on board.
For the ones that are prepping, camping, hunting, fishing, I know what they want or what they are in need of. that is what they get.
The ones not on board get an ugly sweater with a reindeer on the front and a red LED in its nose.
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I only buy presents for the wife, everybody else just gets a Christmas card.
Some people that prefer to be alone arent anti-social they just have no time for drama, stupidity and false people.
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We normally give home made preserves , pickles , biscuits and a knife.. a small torch ......even if they do not prep. You should see the reactions , i would love to have a piece of ground with an underground shelter , fully equipped and ready to go.......i have sent my wish list to santa in march....but he keeps on sending me Boots, pullovers , socks, and waterproof coats.
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last year the males got a victorinox Spartan(bought a job lot shade over a tenner each) and the girls/ladies got a swiss card (again an end of line job lot £7.49 each...all black ones...think the girls would have preferred coloured ones)
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Swisscards are ace, I've used mine loads.
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