what to lose ...BOV....or your life ?

[Mortblanc]

We over here do not consider a vehicle parked outside a risk.

We call it BAIT!

We need the heads to spike on the fence posts up by the turn off from the main road.

[Skean Dhude]

Jonas,

This has been talked about in the circles I used to frequent for some time now.

I believe it will fragment into 2 or 3 mini USA's. One lead by Texas with another one by Washington and possibly a third on the West coast. Socialist scum and Patriots. Some states will be caught at the wrong side of the lines.

It won't be pretty.

[bigpaul]

Some states will be caught at the wrong side of the lines.

It won't be pretty.

sound familiar??

[Hex]

Just imagine the scene...its been over two weeks since the pound/euro/dollar collapse....the local shops on the estate have been cleaned out for food and drink...some totally looted and set on fire...there are gangs of teens and older men (40s etc) going roung breaking into cars looking for any food/drink or fuel...people are very scared..very intimidated...and are keeping their kids inside..safe for the moment anyway. the t.v is only doing news every 3 to 4 hours about London rioting...crisis meetings in Whitehall, COBRA are putting plans together...its a grim and dark time for the UK. shops/buisnesses are closed, people are not going to work...garage forecourts have cars left/pushed their before the fuel ran out at the pumps. the "local"police are moved into cities to concentrate on the larger escalating riots...but the odd siren and drive thru the council estate is maybe only once every day or so. Right then we are at home ..by choice with our doors barricaded maybe ,blinds and curtains closed...they are intermittent power cuts so at night its candles maybe.....so our bug out vehicle is either outside on the drive or in a lock up garage or even pulled into the garden after taking the fence panels down. the gangs are at your door now banging on it to "spare any food " you don't answer ...so they move their attention to your car...pop the windows and their in ...fuel cans full in the back ,spare food in a holdall maybe ...and they are now attempting to cyphon the tank of unleaded/diesel..whatever...SO what do you do ? its broad day light....theres at least 12 of them armed with bats and kitchen knives.....DO YOU run out saying get off my stuff you cu#ts..or I will shoot you in the head with my crossbow rifle..?? and risk you own life and jepardise you own familys safety.....if you do shoots and then are clubbed to death !! or think fu#k it its better to let them take it..and live ? then maybe think of another way out once it isn't as bad.....see by having a vehicle stocked up they will now know your stashing food.....its a constant brain chewer for me ! unless we all had assault rifles what can we do ?? air rifles. ???? hmm ....id like you thoughts on this folks.......

why run outside if you have ranged weapons and they dont? pic a few off from the windows and they will either scatter or attack. if they scatter then bug out immediately. if they attack and they only have clubs and knives remember they have to actually get in first so control how they can get in, limit theyre access so that you cannot get surrownded and take them one at a time. for example use the stairs as a kill box at most only 2 will be able to make it up at a time.

just an idea

[Jonas]

Jonas,

This has been talked about in the circles I used to frequent for some time now.

I believe it will fragment into 2 or 3 mini USA's. One lead by Texas with another one by Washington and possibly a third on the West coast. Socialist scum and Patriots. Some states will be caught at the wrong side of the lines.

It won't be pretty.

Sounds like you were talking with the right people in the right circles. I pretty much agree with your assessment. I fully expect an influx of relatives when this occurs. Some we'll welcome, others we'll turn around and strongly suggest that they head elsewhere. You're right - it won't be pretty. JP

[Straight Shooter]

A well placed petrol can is all they want .....and wait, do not assume they will not be armed , there's always a way if they want in, especially if your in a rural detached place..( who will help you then ) ...if I was looking for food , that's where I would go looking, those out the way places and people on their own....no brainer for me

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We have a habit of treating sheeple with contempt , single brain cell types ....
don't you be so sure, that's very dangerous .

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I can assure you WE are not as clever as we might think we are, being prepared does not mean we are bullet proof

[MaryN]

Bloody hell Jonas you seem well sorted.....all you need to now is sort out your government and homeland security....but don't hold your breath on that one mate

Actually, all Texas needs to do is secede and go back to being The Republic of Texas. The ability to do so is in our state constitution. The US federal government is, IMHO, unsalvagable, and DHS is populated by a bunch of political hacks who couldn't find their butts with both hands.

As per a poll taken a few years ago, about 30+% of Texans were ready to call it quits and go it alone at that time. The number is probably higher now. I will predict this - the first state to secede, be it Alaska, Wyoming, Idaho, Montana, Oklahoma or Texas will start an unstoppable movement like a row of dominos falling. I also would guess that the immigration to the seceding state(s) from states not so concerned with individual liberties (New York and California being two examples) will be massive.

Sorry for derailing this thread, but I have a feeling that you all in the UK might not be getting the whole story from the media.

Gosh, Jonas, you Americans get all the fun. A lot of us would like to do the same with the EU!