Armaggedon

[bigpaul]

(3 October 2012, 15:19)Biter Wrote: Myself I am not a big believer on drilling down into end of the world type scenarios. Non of us can be ready for Armaggedon, no point kidding ourselves that storing food is going to make life much less of a living hell. I often get the feeling from some Preppers that by Prepping your life will be romantically easy (Like living in the 1920's I once read) Err No! I do prep for a pandemic, so this means I cover most scenarios anyway (As best I ca) If I can get past a winter with my family, that is a good start. So some thoughts on my number one and my top quick top 5 items for each.

Economic Failure

I think economic failure is the most likely event in the near future. I believe that economic collapse is just that (The collaspe of the economy) while I do think this could cause wide spread crime, violence and looting, I also think it is short term- mid term (2 months). If all countries reset to 0 balance life does not stop and one day bankers will once again be screwing everyone. Even at the most basic level trade happens in the most desperate economies. People are civilised now, they want to be sheeple and have all the modern comforts. Even those on benefits have everying needed for a soft life 40 inch flat screen, Sky TV, food, water, shelter etc. After a short period everyone is going to want to get back to that standard. Given technology I think a recovery would be swift. Life I suspect would be more violent and as in Argentina I think gated communities etc would become more common. The Rich / Poor gap even greater as I think the biggest suffers from a collaspe will be those on benefits. I suspect UK socialist welfare thinking will also be the cause of the collapse so maybe there is some justice in that.

1 Firearm - Someone else has one, and you do not. They are taking your stuff. Group of people with melee weapons attacks your house, you dont have one, they are taking your stuff. Burglar breaks into your house PSHTF this gives you a much higher chance if there is a confrontation of a non violent outcome.
2 Water - Stored 2 month Supply drinking / cooking water.
3 Food - 2500 Calories per day 2 month supply
4 Cooking stove for food and warmth
5 Your home - Secured and locked down

I too believe that economic breakdown will be the catalyst, but i am not blind enough to rule out everything else. what about what is happening in Israel/Iran, Syria and the middle east in general? what about a flu pandemic? swine flu? avian flu? do you really want to rule out everything that dosent fit your scenario? that is why i am preparing in my small way for everything and anything and ruling NOTHING out.

[Biter]

(3 October 2012, 15:28)bigpaul Wrote:

(3 October 2012, 15:19)Biter Wrote: Myself I am not a big believer on drilling down into end of the world type scenarios. Non of us can be ready for Armaggedon, no point kidding ourselves that storing food is going to make life much less of a living hell. I often get the feeling from some Preppers that by Prepping your life will be romantically easy (Like living in the 1920's I once read) Err No! I do prep for a pandemic, so this means I cover most scenarios anyway (As best I ca) If I can get past a winter with my family, that is a good start. So some thoughts on my number one and my top quick top 5 items for each.

Economic Failure

I think economic failure is the most likely event in the near future. I believe that economic collapse is just that (The collaspe of the economy) while I do think this could cause wide spread crime, violence and looting, I also think it is short term- mid term (2 months). If all countries reset to 0 balance life does not stop and one day bankers will once again be screwing everyone. Even at the most basic level trade happens in the most desperate economies. People are civilised now, they want to be sheeple and have all the modern comforts. Even those on benefits have everying needed for a soft life 40 inch flat screen, Sky TV, food, water, shelter etc. After a short period everyone is going to want to get back to that standard. Given technology I think a recovery would be swift. Life I suspect would be more violent and as in Argentina I think gated communities etc would become more common. The Rich / Poor gap even greater as I think the biggest suffers from a collaspe will be those on benefits. I suspect UK socialist welfare thinking will also be the cause of the collapse so maybe there is some justice in that.

1 Firearm - Someone else has one, and you do not. They are taking your stuff. Group of people with melee weapons attacks your house, you dont have one, they are taking your stuff. Burglar breaks into your house PSHTF this gives you a much higher chance if there is a confrontation of a non violent outcome.
2 Water - Stored 2 month Supply drinking / cooking water.
3 Food - 2500 Calories per day 2 month supply
4 Cooking stove for food and warmth
5 Your home - Secured and locked down

I too believe that economic breakdown will be the catalyst, but i am not blind enough to rule out everything else. what about what is happening in Israel/Iran, Syria and the middle east in general? what about a flu pandemic? swine flu? avian flu? do you really want to rule out everything that dosent fit your scenario? that is why i am preparing in my small way for everything and anything and ruling NOTHING out.

I agree that you should never rule anything out. My pandemic prep will help cover a realm of other possiblities. But prepping for Armaggedon for me and my family would require too many sacrifices to 'Normal life' for an unlikely event. An EMP box for your comms is one thing. But a year supply of food and water is another thing all together.

No plan survives first contact anyway

[bigpaul]

(3 October 2012, 15:59)Biter Wrote:

(3 October 2012, 15:28)bigpaul Wrote:

(3 October 2012, 15:19)Biter Wrote: Myself I am not a big believer on drilling down into end of the world type scenarios. Non of us can be ready for Armaggedon, no point kidding ourselves that storing food is going to make life much less of a living hell. I often get the feeling from some Preppers that by Prepping your life will be romantically easy (Like living in the 1920's I once read) Err No! I do prep for a pandemic, so this means I cover most scenarios anyway (As best I ca) If I can get past a winter with my family, that is a good start. So some thoughts on my number one and my top quick top 5 items for each.

Economic Failure

I think economic failure is the most likely event in the near future. I believe that economic collapse is just that (The collaspe of the economy) while I do think this could cause wide spread crime, violence and looting, I also think it is short term- mid term (2 months). If all countries reset to 0 balance life does not stop and one day bankers will once again be screwing everyone. Even at the most basic level trade happens in the most desperate economies. People are civilised now, they want to be sheeple and have all the modern comforts. Even those on benefits have everying needed for a soft life 40 inch flat screen, Sky TV, food, water, shelter etc. After a short period everyone is going to want to get back to that standard. Given technology I think a recovery would be swift. Life I suspect would be more violent and as in Argentina I think gated communities etc would become more common. The Rich / Poor gap even greater as I think the biggest suffers from a collaspe will be those on benefits. I suspect UK socialist welfare thinking will also be the cause of the collapse so maybe there is some justice in that.

1 Firearm - Someone else has one, and you do not. They are taking your stuff. Group of people with melee weapons attacks your house, you dont have one, they are taking your stuff. Burglar breaks into your house PSHTF this gives you a much higher chance if there is a confrontation of a non violent outcome.
2 Water - Stored 2 month Supply drinking / cooking water.
3 Food - 2500 Calories per day 2 month supply
4 Cooking stove for food and warmth
5 Your home - Secured and locked down

I too believe that economic breakdown will be the catalyst, but i am not blind enough to rule out everything else. what about what is happening in Israel/Iran, Syria and the middle east in general? what about a flu pandemic? swine flu? avian flu? do you really want to rule out everything that dosent fit your scenario? that is why i am preparing in my small way for everything and anything and ruling NOTHING out.

I agree that you should never rule anything out. My pandemic prep will help cover a realm of other possiblities. But prepping for Armaggedon for me and my family would require too many sacrifices to 'Normal life' for an unlikely event. An EMP box for your comms is one thing. But a year supply of food and water is another thing all together.

No plan survives first contact anyway

a years supply of food and water IS possible just not all in one go! depends what you mean by first contact anyway? rioters? looters? Klingons?

[Scythe13]

Just to throw a spanner in the works (and also for a bunch of laughs) has anyone noted the date? Correct!!!! There is no significance to today's date. However, it is one day closer to December 21st!!!! WOOOOO!!!!!!

I really don't believe anything will happen, but for shits and giggles, that's my prediction.