Exploring JOHN and PAULS views sensibly

[bigpaul]

I find that very confusing, I thought the whole point of prepping/survivalism was about considering ALL scenarios and possibilities, isn't that where "prepare for the worst, hope for the best" originates from? to exclude something just because one thinks "it'll never happen" is surely just one removed from a sheeple, I don't just think about "the collapse" and exclude everything else but I include everything and anything right up to and including the collapse ...and beyond.

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all I ask is that people at least CONSIDER the possibility and not rule it out in an off hand way, its more a case of "what if", what if it happened? could people cope and what could they do to increase their chances of survival, if they haven't already done so.

[NorthernRaider]

Fair point BP but other folk DO come to prepping for other reasons, EG Urban dwellers looking on how to survive stuff like inner city riots, or food shortages or just living in a dangerous hood, Those of us with more time on our hands and probably more funds will indeed do as you suggest and explore more and alternative options and issues. There is one recent member who is from Tyneside if I remember right and his sole interest was in helping him plan better to survive long periods of unemployment. That nice chap from London (Mandela ?) came to learn about urban prepping and how to stop his children getting dragged into ethnic street gangs. I doubt but am not certain but I think that many of our members have identified one or two issues they are concerned about and want to focus only on those issues, that's their right and good for them. But some may read your stuff about longer term issues and think " I never thought about that" and ask to learn more.

[Smudge]

[bigpaul]

I think too many people have the attitude that "civilisation" is too big to fail, I think that is wishful thinking in that the very fact that we have come this far we have further to fall WHEN the inevitable happens, I think the Ancient Romans, The Pharohs, the Aztecs and the Mayans all thought their civilisations were going to last forever, heck even the Nazis thought "the third reich" was going to last for a thousand years!!! take away our technology, easy to do as most of it depends on electricity in some form or other to make it work, and the human race will be as helpless as little babies, well most of them anyway.

[Lightspeed]

Smudge: Lammas project is interesting, I've not heard of it before. Thanks for bringing it to attention.

Have you visited it?

How's it progressing?

Good luck to them.

[NorthernRaider]

Its a good find, cheer Smudge the only other place I had heard of in Wales was the CAT centre

[bigpaul]

[NorthernRaider]

Another good find, not off topic in my book ?

[bigpaul]

that's cos we are reading different books it happens every time.

[bigpaul]

according to UK govt own report "during an emergency only 10-20% of people will demonstrate RATIONAL THOUGHT, the majority around 75% will become STUNNED & BEWILDERED, and a small number will display MANIC behaviour".