Colony

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(23 April 2012, 17:55)The Local Ned Wrote:

(23 April 2012, 17:35)Reaper_of_sorrow Wrote: Do we then asume that EVERY unprepared person who comes to us is a threat?

YES - UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE , REGULAR PATROLS WITH STRICT RULES OF ENGAGEMENT CAN 'VET' THESE PEOPLE BEFORE THEY GET NEAR US.

if we turned everyone away then we would very quickly create enemies and then we would have a a hoarde/mob of hungry and hopeless people attacking us for the resouces we have so maticulously planned, Then its all over, We would need o be in a position where we could build a further community around what we have put together.

THE PATROLS STANDING ORDERS WOULD BE TO 'USHER' PEOPLE IN CERTAIN DIRECTIONS , IF DONE CORRECTLY , NOBODY WOULD WANT TO COME BACK NEAR US.

Give people who are hopeless something to hold on to and something worth defending and the group of 10-15 people would be in he shit very quickly, At he begining of the afghanistan conflict brittish and american troops went into communities no bigger than what we are talking about and got torn apart, with all the UAVs and a supply chin longer than we could ever invision and they were (and in some places still are) getting pushed back by a community mallitia.

OUR ARMED FORCES ARE IN THAT CONFLICT YET AGAIN WITH THEIR HANDS TIED BEHIND THEIR BACKS.
AS THEY WERE IN ULSTER TOO - THE TROOPS ON THE GROUND COULD PROBABLY END THE CONFLICT WITHIN THE WEEK IF GIVEN THE GREEN LIGHT TO HIT ALL SUSPECTS , TOO MUCH POLITICAL INTERFERENCE ENSURES THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
DO NOT BE FOOLED INTO THINKING THAT THESE SMALL COMMUNITIES ARE 'TEARING APART' SOME OF THE BEST FIGHTING MEN AND WOMAN ON THE PLANET , TROOPS HAVE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT -THE 'LOCALS' DONT.

The thought that we should fear a few rough arses who think that tere version of perparing is to stockpile weapons and come and muscle what they want from people i believe is wrong and I think this dsscussion should be more of dealing with the refugees from the urban areas who are desperate. I am not saying we put up a banner saying free food and shelter here we still maintain a low pofile but we try and incorperate those who stumble upon us seeking food.

SO WHEN THOSE REFUGEES , WHO HAVE FAILED TO INTEGRATE ,AND WHO YOU ARE HELPING TO SURVIVE - BETRAY US FOR BROWNIE POINTS TO AN AGGRESSOR GANG THAT ARE ARMED AND VERY DANGEROUS.
WHAT DO WE DO ?

Silly to think otherwise in my opinion.

There has to be some friction between the members of any colony , especially to newer incomers.
Any stragglers must be first vetted to see if they have any skills that we need , and if not - sent on their ( opposite ) way.

The colony will quickly become a refugee camp otherwise.

You are right TLN

There is a big need to invisibly manage access to the colony area.

It comes to mind that a declared Contamination Area would be a way to dissuade casual wandering away from pre-determined routes. These would also act as explanation for the disapperance of any folk who had informed others beforehand of their intention to forage in the area.

This would require a lot of land to be captured in the exclusion zone, and the larger the exclusion zone, the more people and more coordination it will take to control it.

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(25 April 2012, 21:31)Skean Dhude Wrote: Anyone surviving long enough who is not doing so from raiding others must be at least worth speaking to in a safe environment.

Remember we are hiding here by default. We will only get caught out because we think things have settled down.

Therein lies the problem with greeting strangers who wander in SD

From the person wandering in's perspective they will rapidly work out that the colony is self sufficient and not a raider group. Automatically the Colony will be less of a threat to them

From the Colony's point of view, the person(s) wandering in have a high probability of having survived through raiding. Some may be genuine preppers who have survived on their own resources that have now dried up.... but how to tell one from the other?.......and does the Colony want to risk letting rogue elements anywhere near?