15 May 2013, 14:40
This is a very interesting question, often contemplated by many on here.
With all injuries and the alike, taken aside, there are a few of us that could survive until old age screwed us over. But there are others that would have an issue with a bit too much rain on a cold day.
Deep down, I think we all have expectations tainted by personal bias. We all like to think we're capable of much more than we've actually proven to ourselves. Truth is, we probably are capable of MUCH more than we've tried, so far. But we'll not get an accurate gauge of our abilities until it's a bit too late.
I was taught that ability x effort = results. Problem is, if you have no ability, or put in no effort, the result is zero (death). From this it seems clear that attitude gives you a HUGE advantage, but you still need some ability. It's like Highlander says, we should be able to make a shelter. If you cannot make a shelter, that's not a problem, it just means it's time to learn a new skill. If you THINK you can make a shelter, but have not yet done so, I'd highly recommend getting out into the woods or garden and give it a go. You can pick up twigs, branches, leaves, and all the rest from the woods if you need to, then cart them back home and practice in your garden. Now that you've tried to build a shelter, can you do the same thing in winter, when there is likely to be less stuff lay about everywhere, when you're shivering and with clouded thoughts from the cold? Different kettle of fish hu? It's for this reason that my BOB has thermals in. If it's summer and I have to bug out, they're great for laying on the sleeping bag instead of wrapping up too warm (technically I'm a layers freak, so use less layers, but the principle is there), but also, thermals are useful because you don't know how long you're going to be out there for!
Food is another issue. Tarrel knows his food levels very well. I'd best most people have just jammed a load of MRE's into their bags and not thought too much about restocking and the alike. Catching food is vital, foraging is vital, trapping is vital, water filtration is vital, good nutrition is vital, but most of all, practicing these skills and then knowing their effectiveness is SUPER VITAL!!! Reading a business book doesn't make you a company CEO any more than reading a Ray Mears book makes you a wilderness survival legend!!! REALISE THAT!!! Knowledge without practice is not just 'potential power' it's also very damn dangerous!
Okay, back on track, kind of went off on one there didn't I?!? Sorry.
For me, I'd say I could last 3 months from my bag, using the replenishing equipment I have for food and the alike. I say 3 months, because after that, I'd expect the world to be back to a certain level of normality. I would be able to survive longer, if called to do so, but I think I would resort to urban foraging for the first part of it, and after 3 months, I'd expect a die off that would lend itself favourably to someone inclined to do what needed to be done to survive.
It's a really hard one to call. During the 3 months, I'd lay low for the first one or 2, but then would spend the last month I would set to building a log cabin style single room....if possible, I'd like to be near to a pine forest because what little practice I've had was with pine. After that, I'd be bugging in a BOL.
See how this gets tricky?
I don't plan on bugging out indefinitely. I plan on going to a predetermined BOL or build a BOS (Bug Out Shelter) in my BOL that would become home, or a temporary shelter......by then I'd be bugging in.
With all injuries and the alike, taken aside, there are a few of us that could survive until old age screwed us over. But there are others that would have an issue with a bit too much rain on a cold day.
Deep down, I think we all have expectations tainted by personal bias. We all like to think we're capable of much more than we've actually proven to ourselves. Truth is, we probably are capable of MUCH more than we've tried, so far. But we'll not get an accurate gauge of our abilities until it's a bit too late.
I was taught that ability x effort = results. Problem is, if you have no ability, or put in no effort, the result is zero (death). From this it seems clear that attitude gives you a HUGE advantage, but you still need some ability. It's like Highlander says, we should be able to make a shelter. If you cannot make a shelter, that's not a problem, it just means it's time to learn a new skill. If you THINK you can make a shelter, but have not yet done so, I'd highly recommend getting out into the woods or garden and give it a go. You can pick up twigs, branches, leaves, and all the rest from the woods if you need to, then cart them back home and practice in your garden. Now that you've tried to build a shelter, can you do the same thing in winter, when there is likely to be less stuff lay about everywhere, when you're shivering and with clouded thoughts from the cold? Different kettle of fish hu? It's for this reason that my BOB has thermals in. If it's summer and I have to bug out, they're great for laying on the sleeping bag instead of wrapping up too warm (technically I'm a layers freak, so use less layers, but the principle is there), but also, thermals are useful because you don't know how long you're going to be out there for!
Food is another issue. Tarrel knows his food levels very well. I'd best most people have just jammed a load of MRE's into their bags and not thought too much about restocking and the alike. Catching food is vital, foraging is vital, trapping is vital, water filtration is vital, good nutrition is vital, but most of all, practicing these skills and then knowing their effectiveness is SUPER VITAL!!! Reading a business book doesn't make you a company CEO any more than reading a Ray Mears book makes you a wilderness survival legend!!! REALISE THAT!!! Knowledge without practice is not just 'potential power' it's also very damn dangerous!
Okay, back on track, kind of went off on one there didn't I?!? Sorry.
For me, I'd say I could last 3 months from my bag, using the replenishing equipment I have for food and the alike. I say 3 months, because after that, I'd expect the world to be back to a certain level of normality. I would be able to survive longer, if called to do so, but I think I would resort to urban foraging for the first part of it, and after 3 months, I'd expect a die off that would lend itself favourably to someone inclined to do what needed to be done to survive.
It's a really hard one to call. During the 3 months, I'd lay low for the first one or 2, but then would spend the last month I would set to building a log cabin style single room....if possible, I'd like to be near to a pine forest because what little practice I've had was with pine. After that, I'd be bugging in a BOL.
See how this gets tricky?
I don't plan on bugging out indefinitely. I plan on going to a predetermined BOL or build a BOS (Bug Out Shelter) in my BOL that would become home, or a temporary shelter......by then I'd be bugging in.
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