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Knowledge decreases weight
13 December 2013, 19:22,
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RE: Knowledge decreases weight
I totally get what you're saying MNM.

But I'll just correct 1 quick thing for you mate, before I get into my main response
(13 December 2013, 16:39)Midnitemo Wrote: Yeah agreed its a circumstances thing.....but circumstances weren't against s13 on this occasion
There were only a handful of hours (it's winter so getting dark early and I arrived on site at past midday), and also it was down at -1 degrees by midnight, so could have been as low as -3 in the night. I'd have to say they are not ideal. People have died at higher temps than that. Not having a go, but just pointing something out.

Okay, on with my main response...I'm all for awesome gear mate!!! Every meet we have I'm trying out some new gear. Even had a new 1 man tent for the last Dartmoor camp, but opted for a different challenge. Was I making it harder for myself? Nope. More effort, but I slept just as comfortable in my shelter, if not better than many on the trip.

Now, let's play a little game called "Sod's Law". You find yourself out and about, in the middle of nowhere, and your backpack with all your amazing gear falls off your back by some feet of magic. Maybe it gets stolen while you sleep, or a spark from a fire burns your tent down, or who knows what else. But one thing we are going to play thing is the idea that you're out in the wilderness, without your gear. BOLLOCKS!!!! What now mate?

I can tell you exactly where CS13 (Cave-Scythe13) will be heading...wherever he wants. He is learning the skills to survive and has practiced them thoroughly. CS13 is happy as can be. Yes it'll take a bit more effort because he doesn't have his spinacker cloth tent, or any of his cool high tech gear, but he still knows where to get what he needs and how to make it comfortable.

Now, without your gear, and without using a similar sentence to "I'd be screwed" please describe your response, as you only have a few hours of light left and the temp will be dropping to at least -1 degrees tonight, possibly even -3, because it's winter...
You'd be like a scuba diver without air or an astronaut without all their high tech gear. Same as many 'survivalists' in the wild. Without their gear they're underwater without air!


Just because I choose to go primitive and learn those skills, it doesn't mean I'm against tech gear at all. To think that would be a classic example of a major assumption going wrong. Horribly wrong!!!

For a little more fun, I have some solar panels for my bag coming, and I even mentioned playing Monopoly on my iPod in the shelter in the morning.
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Those who sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither - Benjamin Franklin
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Knowledge decreases weight - by Scythe13 - 1 December 2013, 00:45
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Midnitemo - 1 December 2013, 00:56
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by bigpaul - 1 December 2013, 10:29
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Midnitemo - 1 December 2013, 18:50
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Skean Dhude - 2 December 2013, 14:40
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by bigpaul - 2 December 2013, 14:56
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Mortblanc - 2 December 2013, 17:35
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by bigpaul - 2 December 2013, 17:44
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Midnitemo - 2 December 2013, 17:46
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by bigpaul - 2 December 2013, 17:54
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by NorthernRaider - 2 December 2013, 18:47
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Timelord - 2 December 2013, 19:03
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by NorthernRaider - 2 December 2013, 19:16
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Mortblanc - 5 December 2013, 17:17
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Skean Dhude - 11 December 2013, 16:35
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Scythe13 - 2 December 2013, 20:29
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Timelord - 5 December 2013, 15:21
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Midnitemo - 5 December 2013, 16:57
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Timelord - 5 December 2013, 22:41
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Mortblanc - 11 December 2013, 18:01
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by NorthernRaider - 11 December 2013, 20:01
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Scythe13 - 12 December 2013, 19:09
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Timelord - 12 December 2013, 21:06
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Scythe13 - 12 December 2013, 21:38
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Timelord - 12 December 2013, 21:56
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Mortblanc - 12 December 2013, 23:45
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Midnitemo - 12 December 2013, 23:49
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Scythe13 - 12 December 2013, 23:55
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Midnitemo - 13 December 2013, 00:01
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Mortblanc - 13 December 2013, 14:23
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Midnitemo - 13 December 2013, 16:39
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Midnitemo - 13 December 2013, 17:56
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Mortblanc - 13 December 2013, 17:38
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by bigpaul - 13 December 2013, 18:27
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Midnitemo - 13 December 2013, 18:50
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by bigpaul - 13 December 2013, 19:01
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Midnitemo - 13 December 2013, 19:12
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Scythe13 - 13 December 2013, 19:22
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Midnitemo - 13 December 2013, 19:35
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Scythe13 - 13 December 2013, 22:03
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Midnitemo - 14 December 2013, 00:14
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Scythe13 - 14 December 2013, 09:44
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by bigpaul - 14 December 2013, 11:23
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Midnitemo - 14 December 2013, 12:29
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by bigpaul - 14 December 2013, 12:42
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Midnitemo - 14 December 2013, 12:57
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Scythe13 - 14 December 2013, 13:04
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Midnitemo - 14 December 2013, 15:47
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by bigpaul - 14 December 2013, 15:57
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Timelord - 15 December 2013, 21:20
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by MCavity - 17 December 2013, 14:19
RE: Knowledge decreases weight - by Scythe13 - 17 December 2013, 21:23

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