(31 March 2014, 21:27)Little Lou Wrote: Hello, ErikEst... This isn't Putin propaganda - it's historical fact, and even Wikipedia acknowledges it.
I have no axe to grind in this, but as a historian I do like facts to be accurate. Beyond that is politics, and we have been told repeatedly that this is not the forum for that. I find what you have to say interesting, but let's not get drawn away from the main subject
do you think actually people are so stupid? i know there is whole department in the old KGB descendent FSB which is curating all kind of web stuff. wiki is freeware everyone can participate in it. so don't give me this crap. people here is more aware than your usual lumpen target.
and what exactly is your historical facts? according the FSB approved history books for russians? where both steam engine and the radio were discovered by russians?
i urge you to read the ex spetsnaz, diplomat and now the writer Victor Suvorov's (Vladimir Rezun) works. he finished the Frunze Kiev Red Banner Higher Military Command School. In 1968 he served in the 145th Motorized Rifles Regiment of the Carpathian Military District in Ukraine, participating in the Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia. In 1970-1971 he served in the Volga Military District Headquarters, and later with the 808th Independent Army Reconnaissance Company (Spetsnaz).
On June 10, 1978 Rezun defected to the United Kingdom. He was smuggled out of the country to England with his wife and two young children, where he worked as an intelligence analyst and lecturer.
and especially for you, wiki link about him:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Suvorov
his works will really open your eyes! read it and you'll know who is really started the WWII.
there is no such thing as neighborhood watch in russia or around it! they care only for what in their own yard, all the garbage is going straight over the fence or in the woods near by. believe me, i'm living amongst them right now. they are the locust which consume all that they can and move to the place where they see other people prosper by their work and not only by the exploiting the natural resources.
there are lots of old people still alive actually remembering how the things really were. they are our parent and grandparents, not some fictional wikipedia web link. you f..kin FSB did not manage to kill them all!
and i'm out of this forum, it is compromised by fsb. look how this is going on: smooth talk about the neighborhood watch and cancer patient just to gain compassion.
i have enough of this crap in my country, good luck with commies guys...
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