But what of Social workers ?

[NorthernRaider]

I also agree in general with Pres Freak on this with a proviso that I expect many of those whose entire lives revolve around much of the pampered, protected public sector will prolly peg out long before those raised in career environments that rely on self reliance and self determination. Those from union dominated council controlled HSE obssesed environs where all decisions have to be passed by commitees and aproved by extrenal experts with be emotional crippled much more than say the self employed blacksmith / tree surgeon/ bodyguard / famer etc

I like and admire preserve freak and find most of his contributions level headed and fair, but I do strongly disagree with him on one of his comments which is "What someone did before the world burnt shouldn't be anything but a funny fireside story " That I can never agree with as I personally (and yes its very much a minority opinion) would not willingly have anything to do with trade union activists, socialist for either side, politicians and definately social workers, Except to harvest their organs.