But what of Social workers ?

[preservefreak]

(4 March 2012, 13:37)NorthernRaider Wrote: I also agree in general with Pres Freak on this with a proviso that I expect many of those whose entire lives revolve around much of the pampered, protected public sector will prolly peg out long before those raised in career environments that rely on self reliance and self determination. Those from union dominated council controlled HSE obssesed environs where all decisions have to be passed by commitees and aproved by extrenal experts with be emotional crippled much more than say the self employed blacksmith / tree surgeon/ bodyguard / famer etc

sure, some people will have nothing to contribute. No doubt if it all goes brown and misty tomorrow then there will be 20 somethings who left school and sat around watching tv or filing everyday since. but to discriminate against someone for a job they did doesn't sit right with me. who hasn't had to do a job they didn't want to do because they had to eat.

(4 March 2012, 13:37)NorthernRaider Wrote: I like and admire preserve freak and find most of his contributions level headed and fair, but I do strongly disagree with him on one of his comments which is "What someone did before the world burnt shouldn't be anything but a funny fireside story " That I can never agree with as I personally (and yes its very much a minority opinion) would not willingly have anything to do with trade union activists, socialist for either side, politicians and definately social workers, Except to harvest their organs.

That's fair enough NR. when I said that I was referring to what job they did, because there aren't many of them that would offend me enough. However what someone did before a crisis is obviously important to know both to assess their value and protect ourselves from the monsters out there. You've obviously had personal and hateful experiences with the people you mentioned above that others haven't. I think for all of us who've seen people we care about hurt by others there's similar feelings.

Also thank you for the vote of confidence even though I am a....what was it.... ah yes "bleeding hearts liberal" I think