(7 January 2013, 20:01)Mortblanc Wrote: (7 January 2013, 18:43)bigpaul Wrote: i dont know if "thugs from the cities" would ever make it OUT of the cities, i mean the countryside must be like an alien world to them?
I taught for a yourth rehab program for a year. It was a "wilderness program" where we took the offenders well out into the boonies, housed them in military squad tents and all food was cooked over the campfire. Their tents were a mile from the admin center, the school building was a mile from the other buildings. They had to walk a mile to get anything, then a mile back. Rations were doled out one meal at a time so each meal ment a two mile walk. There was no running water, no electric except at admin and school.
It was not unusual to have one of the 17 year olds, in for attempted murder, break dfown and cry when dark came, espically on their first nights. I have seen them curled into the fetal position beneath their cots because there was a bump in the night on many occasions.
I once watched an urban gang leader/drug kingpin stand in a trance as the sun went down waiting for the streetlights to come on. He went absolutely bonkers when he realized there were no lights.
We had no fence around this place. There were no runaways because the rumor was that the farmers in the area would get $100 for the return of a runaway dead or alive, no questions asked. I can't imagine who would have started a rumor like that?
These people are useless when the concrete ends. I live 30 miles from an urban area that riots on occasion. They average 200 murders a year while my bordering county averages one murder every 4-5 years. There is a river between myself and them and that river is their self imposed boundry. Once when one of their leaders was asked, by local media, why the urban thugs stayed on their side of the river his answer was simple and honest, "nothing over there but cornfields and farmers with shotguns!"
Neither do they have any training that would make them decent in the attack of even a poorly defended position. If things are rough move along to easier pickings. Smash and grab looting is much different from frontal assault against a detirmined defense, even if that defense is only sling-stones and arrows.
Our vehicle culture also insulates us a great deal. If you told one of the urban gang bangers he was going to have to walk 20 miles to get his next meal he would sit down and starve on the spot. Our road system would be gridlocked within a few minutes and no vehicles would be going anywhere. If our people can not drive there they do not go.
Our urban folk are also programed to sit still and wait for the government to come save them. The same urban area across the river from me suffered a full power outage for 5 days several years back. 1,500,000 with no electric. When the electricity came back on the city was down to a 3 hour water supply.
That means if the power goes out long term, with no help arriving, within 7 days there will be waterborne illness raging throught the community. Within two weeks colera will be present. Within a month I will not have to worry about any roving bands of thugs from any direction.
Yes, I have a 2500 gallon water supply, and live on a lake.
Yes I planned it that way.
Does that make me a prepper? I don't know what you would call me. I live no differently than my grandad lived, so I guess you would just call me "old fasioned".
As for the local services holding "prepper events", they do not actually know they are holding prepper training. Our group of aquantences is simply taking advantage of courses and training that is available to every responsible citizen; first aid, emergency response, canning preserves and veggies and tending the backyard veggie patch.
Any large areas of forest near you?Black bears?I only vaguely know that area from the novels of John Yount(Toots in Solitude).Wish it was me living there(or anywhere wild in N America).Britain is like a condensed version of the above-mentioned Oprah watching,dumbed down,dumb-headed modern (sub)urbanity.
Hope that Pine Beetle infestation doesn't totally decimate the forests of USA/Canada.Even though I've never set foot in N America,it's a mythical place I've inhabited in my head since my teens.
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