prospects of survival for todays society

[bigpaul]

i like your thinking Scythe, i just missed the second world war-by 3 years, too young for Vietnam, wife's parents moved to east Devon from Leeds during the cold war, lived in a thatched cottage with no electric or running water, my adopted mother AND my birth mother both came from farming families, my grandfather was a cabinet maker and his father was a fisherman, my wife left home and went into farming, she knows more about the countryside than i'll EVER know-i was brought up as a city boy