(28 February 2024, 03:20)Petertherabbit Wrote: We won't be able to scale back emissions, by making changes alone in the west and it is unrealistic, to expect the the developing and third world, to hold back their development, to benefit us all.
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Hopefully, we can keep the west and western Europe a still reasonable habitable space, certainly my experience of other countries and south East Asia is, they have little to no regard for the natural beauty of their environment. It's common in South East Asia, to see rivers completely choked full of rubbish and litter everywhere.
Peter, That is a simple model of the world and not realistic or supported by history.
As people come out of poverty their reproduction reduces because they are living the life. The Wests population is decreasing in reality it is only the influx of immigrants that are increasing the number. It is reasonable to expect the worlds growth to slow down if poverty is reduced in the third world countries. It is in our benefit to hep them achieve that quicker.
The alternative is to simply stop supporting them. They cannot feed their population and if they continue to grow we will be unable to feed everyone and that includes us. We are sharing our output with them. This is the elites reason to cap our population and can only be achieved by letting people die or in our elites case killing them.
As far as pollution goes wit is not as bad as you are making out. Environmental controls mean that our emissions are much cleaner than they were and it is our appalling waste disposal processes that are causing the issue. Our governments sells us the pay to pollute because it is more cash they have extorted from us. The rubbish is then sent to the third world where they simply throw it into the sea. If we disposed of it properly then it wouldn't be the issue it is.
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