Are the sheeple starting to wake up?

[bigpaul]

(4 September 2012, 13:42)Barneyboy Wrote:

(4 September 2012, 13:38)bigpaul Wrote: its was Labour that spent all the money and left the country with nothing, Gordon Brown was still spending OUR money right up to the general election and he was the idiot that sold off our gold reserves when the price was low,low,low, so its not ALL the fault of the Tories!!

this is for me not a tories or labour thing its the rich ass fucking the poor again

yeah, your right, their all the bloomin same, they all went to university together and sent their kids to the same boarding schools and they all support the EU, there isnt a darn thing to chose between them!

[NorthernRaider]

(4 September 2012, 12:59)Barneyboy Wrote: it not the people on the dole NR it the tax dodges and the fucking banks and super rich mate dont be fooled by the bullshit that they put on the tv own by the rich look it up mate the money the dole cost is fuck all compared to the money the ptb milk off pal

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the nazis done the same thing with the jews to unite a divided country common hatedred to the weak you see it on the tv atos are treating the ill like shit(NOT IN MY NAME) MPs doing fuck all about it and blaming it all on the job less. fuck me NR

Nup your wrong, The welfare bill in this country is over £100 billion a year, The rich got rich by business or inheritance or outflanking the sheep good luck to them.

You say Dole is fuck all but that dole is still at least £40 billion a year taken from people like me, I dont want my pay taken in tax and given to other people, I want it cos its mine and I worked for it.

Those who got rich have got rich good luck to anyone who makes it, because if they are rich they are not living off my taxes

The PTB milk to money off the people cos dozey half witted retards keep voting Labour, Tory or Lib Dems.

I dont give a flying fuck about " The weak" they are not related to me so why the fuck anm I erxpected to pay for them. The unemployed, the sick, the disabled etc should fuck off and get their families to care for them, not the tax payer. Its socialism that has brought this country to its knees.

If I was not taxed to death I could live some place nicer, send my kids to a better school, retire a bit earlier,eat a bit better, drive something nicer. Those who are rich dont affect me, those who think the welfare state is a good idea do affect me cos money I should have in my bank for my family is taken by the tax man to be pissed away by benefits claimants.
Social Security, Socialism, Welfare State, Benefits System etc all that is is polite terms for parasitism, IE a bunch of people living off the efforts of others, Its wrong at every point.

I pissed myself laughing at the Nazi / Jew comment, you appear to be a socialist think who forgets the Socialists/ communists exterminated 30 times more people than the scummy nazis ever did, The left is a far greater disease to man than the pathetic nazis ever were. The Nazis blaimed the jews and you condemn it, then you condemn those who get wealthy and pull themselves out of the gutter.

As Winston used to say Capitalism is the unequal sharing of wealth, but Socialism is only the equal sharing of misery.

Look todays society is only in the mess it is in today because the stupid people believe the BS and crap put out by the mainstream parties, the far sighted like Enoch Powell, Winston Churchill, Nigel Farage etc have warned us time after time no to follow or believe the establishment cos they will always shaft you, so the unemployed have no one to blaim cept themselves and any other dickhead that ever voted for the big three partys of liars, cheats, traitors, warcriminals etc.

EG The wonderful modern socialist Peter Mandelson has just announced record profits from his latest company and he is getting loaded, Diane Abbot who spent years condemning rich people who sent their kids to private schools as money grubbing parasites and filthy tories, then sent her kids to private school.

The welfare system is wrong, getting rich is fine.

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(4 September 2012, 13:30)Prepaday Wrote: Apart from the drugs, The folk on benefits put their money back into the system in one shape or form, Shopping, pub, Driving, public transport, it's all taxed.

Yes but its MY bloody money they are spending, its taken from TAX PAYERS like us on this forum, Money that should be buying me a van, buying you a place in Spain, buying SD the factory he wants, buying BP the Harley he has earned, etc etc But instead the harder we work the more the bastards take of us to give to the welfare claimants and not the rich.

[TOF]

NR, I was in the process of typing something very similar!

[NorthernRaider]

Look at the party of the working man the Labour party, First thing they did in 96 when they came to power was give all MPS a wage rise, this was followed by an increase in MPs expenses.
From here for the working man they first took away our mortgage tax relief, then they quickly raided our private sector pensions, then they took away our mortgage tax relief, then over ten years they put up VAT and doubled council tax. And let us NEVEr forget how LABOUR actually imprisoned pensioners for not paying their massively inflated council tax. Socialism is a much greater cancer than unequal capitalism.

[Barneyboy]

NR really pal so every one on the dole is scum and not you prob how many MPs come from very rich familys they run the country pal you say you are not rich do you really think they will be the one to look after you when the time comes dude

[NorthernRaider]

You work, you get paid andf apart from a very basic tax to pay for essentials like cops, fire fighters, medics, binmen etc the rest of your money should be in YOUR pocket, not in the chancellors. YOU should be able to decide what YOU spend YOUR money on, Not a government taking it and giving it to chavs, building nukes or giving to foreign aid schemes. YOU should have YOUR money to decide on what services YOU want not giving it to a council to blow on Libraries, Meals on wheels, ring and rides, Sure start centers, gay and Lesbian drop in centres, Asylum seker support programs, meals on wheals, creches, sports facilities, swimming pools etc.

The money should aLWAYS be in your pocket and not the councils or the gummints. If the disabled want acess to a building or modifications to their home then fine, pay for it themselves and there is no problem. but taking the money from my pocket and ergo the food from my kids mouths to piss away on social welfare scvhemes is immoral and wrong.

I note also all these "Socialists" who spent years condemning those who get wealthy suddenly go very quiet themselves when they get rich, Dianne Abbot, Tony Blair, most trade union leaders, Peter Mandelson, all the lefty activists etc.

Your earning and your wealth belong in only one place, Your pocket.

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(4 September 2012, 14:06)Barneyboy Wrote: NR really pal so every one on the dole is scum and not you prob how many MPs come from very rich familys they run the country pal you say you are not rich do you really think they will be the one to look after you when the time comes dude

EXACTLY WHERE and I mean fucking EXACTLY where have I said benefits claimants are SCUM ?

FYI it may come as a suprise but I dont ask ANYONE to look after me, I'm a survivalist, I care only for those who believe in the smallest form of government and the tiniest welfare system, I dont ask ANYONE to look after me I look after myself. I have no time for Socialists or tories but I admire people with enough get up and go to gfet rich, and I dont care for people who think they have the right to live off other peoples taxes.

[Barneyboy]

yeah thats all good until you lose you job because of ill heath or you boss fucks off to didyeahmakeituperstan becuse of greed hope it never happens to you mate

[NorthernRaider]

(4 September 2012, 14:06)Barneyboy Wrote: NR really pal so every one on the dole is scum and not you prob how many MPs come from very rich familys they run the country pal you say you are not rich do you really think they will be the one to look after you when the time comes dude

To be clear, only people who think they have a right to live off other peoples efforts are scum be they parasitic dole scroungers living for generations off benefits or twats in big houses who think they can control the rent levels on ordinary peoples homes and bleed them til the pips squeek.

[Barneyboy]

so wot do you suggest we do with the poor and ill NR when the shtf its every man for them selfs i agree but until then we cant yust let them die mate think of the crime rate going up

[NorthernRaider]

(4 September 2012, 14:11)Barneyboy Wrote: yeah thats all good until you lose you job because of ill heath or you boss fucks off to didyeahmakeituperstan becuse of greed hope it never happens to you mate

You you dont mind other people living off your efforts, FYI I dont work I gave up work to raise my family, and guess what PAL, We waiting until we had been married over 20 years before we started a family because we could not afford one when we were young, and we were not going to claim benefits, We saved and saved I did three jobs and my missus still does two, and we put money aside and did without fags booze and holidays. We wanted three kids but could only afford one so one is all we had. Its called planning and prepping not parasiting. And in all that time we have not claimed a penny, nor would we want to,.