The Slow Descent - When To Bug Out?

[Tarrel]

I think the OP poses a really good question. I guess the key thing is; when do you disconnect from BAU? That's a tough call, especially when you think that most other people around you will not be tuned in to the situation as acutely as preppers are, and will therefore be continuing to see BAU.

At what point do you walk into the school and march your kids out (as in "Last Light")? When do you decide to compromise your job by not showing up tomorrow?

Very easy to fall into the "boiling frog" syndrome and just assume / hope things will turn the corner and get better "tomorrow".

I don't think there's a straightforward answer to this, apart from deciding to change one's lifestyle well ahead of SHTF and moving to a situation in which bugging out is either (a) unnecessary, (b) easier (you have more control over your time by, e.g, being self-employed and home-schooling), or © you are in a location where getting the timing wrong is less critical.

[NorthernRaider]

(5 October 2012, 23:56)Tarrel Wrote: At what point do you walk into the school and march your kids out (as in "Last Light")? When do you decide to compromise your job by not showing up tomorrow?

About the week the son comers home from school asying teachers are going absent, the school dinners were undelivered, not all the school buses turn up, when other kids in growing numbers come to school without food.

Or when the LOCAL sainsburies, spa, coop start reporting delivery trucks not turning up, when you only see police vehicles driving round in convoys, when power cuts start and theres no bad weather, when extremist of gangs start rioting and looting but the cops dont tuirn up, When local civil servants I know suddenly " Go visiting family in Wales / Scotland/ Tierra del Fuego. When you hear council and civvie 4x4s being rounded up in depots, When ministers start saying they are just spending time with family or dealing with local constituancy issues.

I think ( possibly ) there will be plenty of "Tells" if preppers keep monitoring current affairs and news progs and learn to read inbetween the lines.

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My bloody spelling !!!

About the week the son comes home from school saying teachers are going absent, the school dinners were undelivered, not all the school buses turn up, when other kids in growing numbers come to school without food.

Or when the LOCAL Sainsburies, Spa, Coop start reporting delivery trucks not turning up, when you only see police vehicles driving round in convoys, when power cuts start and theres no bad weather, when extremist or gangs start rioting and looting but the cops dont turn up, When local civil servants I know suddenly " Go visiting family in Wales / Scotland/ Tierra del Fuego". When you hear council and civvie 4x4s being rounded up into depots, When ministers start saying they are just spending time with family or dealing with local constituancy issues.

I think ( possibly ) there will be plenty of "Tells" if preppers keep monitoring current affairs and news progs and learn to read inbetween the lines.
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[Metroyeti]

My spellings bad, need to get a pc, the phones no bloody good.

[NorthernRaider]

(5 October 2012, 23:56)Tarrel Wrote: Very easy to fall into the "boiling frog" syndrome and just assume / hope things will turn the corner and get better "tomorrow".

YES a very VERY good point we dont deal with properly, I feel that many members of the prepper community keep expecting one single apocalyptic event to annouce the arrival of TEOTWAWKI, when in fact its going to be more likely multiple small but accumulative events like the Scenarion you posted last night. Expecting a V Bruce Willis even is quite low, but waking up one morning to no power, no food in shops, no cops, no public services is far more likely, The sudden dawning rwalisation that petrol is now £10 a gallon and hard to find, Wifey saying its £3 for a loaf of bread, taxes get raised but services get cut even more, Ministers constantly escorted by CP officers, MPs staying in their wards etc

[bigpaul]

it looks very much like we COULD start having power cuts BY(at least) 2015 as TPTB FINALLY acknowledge we havent got enough spare capacity in the system.

[HunterNurturer]

(6 October 2012, 09:45)bigpaul Wrote: it looks very much like we COULD start having power cuts BY(at least) 2015 as TPTB FINALLY acknowledge we havent got enough spare capacity in the system.

Funny thing is the report saying we could power shortages by 2015 came from ofgem, which labour says it will get rid of if they come into power...

[bigpaul]

(6 October 2012, 10:43)HunterNurturer Wrote:

(6 October 2012, 09:45)bigpaul Wrote: it looks very much like we COULD start having power cuts BY(at least) 2015 as TPTB FINALLY acknowledge we havent got enough spare capacity in the system.

Funny thing is the report saying we could power shortages by 2015 came from ofgem, which labour says it will get rid of if they come into power...

these shortages were well know about as long ago as 2008 WHEN LABOUR WERE IN POWER!!

[Tibbs735]

It would probably be a good idea to try and blur the transition to post-shtf life now, so that it's less of a shock when the time comes.

[bigpaul]

i thought thats what we ARE doing by prepping?

[Metroyeti]

Been without a fridge all week,new one arived today. Did easilywithout it.